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Tim Static

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Every game has a tier list and those games have match ups, which determine the tier list.

So I am a bit confused... is this patch already released for the PS3? haven't gotten any updates or patches since signing on yet... is it just me? It says 9/23/2011, but Im sure thats just the patch note release. Can someone confirm? Thanks.
9-23-11 is the date the notes were released. The patch hit XBL i believe early on 9-22, and will hit PSN very very soon.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
What overhead isn't slow...
La KL hat swipe? lol Ermac's U4 is arguably the slowest overhead in the game, so I don't even consider it worth mentioning...

he also needed a damage scaling 51% for a bnb with 1 bar and no reset is way too much also he can full combo out of an uppercut for 47%, would you trade armor in some ex specials for a little less damage??
Nobody should be complaining about Ermac at this point especially....the fact that he has somewhat easy good damaging combos is one of his best weapons.

@Respi, dude MK will most likely be at Evo next year since it made it this year PRIOR to all these issues...
 

RE_4Alice

Banned
La KL hat swipe? lol Ermac's U4 is arguably the slowest overhead in the game, so I don't even consider it worth mentioning...
jax has SLOWEST overheads in game. if any could use buff on them its him. he dies just to crouching all day since he cant do much smh
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
jax has SLOWEST overheads in game. if any could use buff on them its him. he dies just to crouching all day since he cant do much smh
Beg to differ, Ermac's you can see coming years ahead of time and is near to useless....and you can't implement in an actual combo or juggle off of it making it useless.

Jax's at least isn't. Ermac needs a good overhead that's actually fast.
 

RE_4Alice

Banned
Beg to differ, Ermac's you can see coming years ahead of time and is near to useless....

Jax's at least isn't. Ermac needs a good overhead that's actually fast.
jax overhead NO ONE good get hit by... they even jump for free combo on reaction. ermac overhead i see it being spammed on corner opponent and it works everytime
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
Ermac's overhead is not spammable, and NO good Ermac players spam U4 much less even use it.

All you have to do is block low, it's not hard.
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
thats why they invented the throw. low/high isn't that big of a deal if you mix in throws. they do good damage. I think only freddy has a true 50/50 off of a JiP.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
Oh yeah, that's why I mentioned you're better off mixing up his F4 with throws and his 31, it does work when you implement it correctly. That's what I do, works well.
 

ZeroEffect

Warrior
Mileena is hard to play. Doesn't mean she's not a pain in the ass in the right hands. Oh and she beats Reptile 7-3. Mileena has an answer for every single situation in the entire game. Even more w/the patch, considering she received ZERo nerfs, she's all the more better fighting the cast and top tier. She has no horrible matchups that I'm aware of.

If you don't think she's top 5, np. But saying she's barely top 10 is just sillyness
Nori, Mileena doesn't have horrible matchups, but she doesn't have enough GOOD matchups to ever be in that upper echelon. She was barely top 10 before the patch. Reptile is NOT a 7-3 for her. Especially now. She may win the matchup, but it's not, and has never been that lopsided. The only matchup she had that was 7-3 was vs Sheeva, and now post-patch who the hell knows.

Her receiving zero nerfs (as well as Zero buffs too btw) only means she was perfectly balanced as is. Not that she's better for fighting the cast. It may help her against KL and Raiden, but more importantly it could HURT her previously good matchups since others are being buffed around her. She is very good. I know that. But anyone who claims she's that high up simply doesn't know her weaknesses.

You obviously have not fought a good Mileena nor have seen Reo play her. You do realize it was 2 Mileenas who almost took out Perfect Legend right?
And here we go again with the REO vs PL thing. It's almost October. Evo is over people, let's move on.
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
Mileena-Reptile is a 7-3, because the EX slide buff helps him get in only a little, but building the meter is still difficult for Reptile, anyway, and he still does not have an answer for telekick without meter, since instant air sai jails him on standblock and his punishment on crouchblock is 99.9% negligible.
 

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
Mileena-Reptile is a 7-3, because the EX slide buff helps him get in only a little, but building the meter is still difficult for Reptile, anyway, and he still does not have an answer for telekick without meter, since instant air sai jails him on standblock and his punishment on crouchblock is 99.9% negligible.
that sounds pretty dumb to me... so you can't punish it at all?
 

CY MasterHavik

Master of Chaos and Jax
I'm sure there is some truth to this, however that doesn't explain CDjr's jax, all the people that go to VSM play him all the time, especially his brothers who he plays constantly every day against there cyrax and kitana, sure by now these people have the jax matchup in check, and yet CDjr tends to win, a lot.
That is the truth. It is because he knows what Jax can do to Cryax and kitana.

While I do think there's a tier list, he is right that this game is all matchups. They're all over the place lol.

But yeah...CDjr is just that good.
Dude fucking Check said it. You know it's the truth. Check and tom Brady are awesome! :D
 

Husteen

Noob.
Every game has a tier list and those games have match ups, which determine the tier list.



9-23-11 is the date the notes were released. The patch hit XBL i believe early on 9-22, and will hit PSN very very soon.
let's hope you're right. i don't even want to play the game until i get the patch on ps3.
just saying, though, NRS' "soon" has taken up to two weeks in the past =[
 

CY MasterHavik

Master of Chaos and Jax
Really? Tuesday? Why not Monday? Great...I won't be able to take the new Jax for a spin until I get home from school. Sigh.... at least it's on a day where I got no club.
 

Shadowfire

Mortal
Tuesday is when PSN updates are always released, for every game. They'd release it earlier if they could but it's not possible.

Mileena-Reptile is a 7-3, because the EX slide buff helps him get in only a little, but building the meter is still difficult for Reptile, anyway, and he still does not have an answer for telekick without meter, since instant air sai jails him on standblock and his punishment on crouchblock is 99.9% negligible.
They talked about tweaking a lot of hitboxes in the patch. It'd be worth seeing if Reptile no longer has this unique jailing issue.

Besides if it's really that easy for Mileena, what reason would she have not to just tele kick->sai->tele kick->sai etc.?
 

Husteen

Noob.
Tuesday is when PSN updates are always released, for every game. They'd release it earlier if they could but it's not possible.
why do you say that? i know psn updates on tuesdays but xbox also has its own update day and i don't think it's friday.
psn has also gotten patches on other days before. out of the two, xbox usually is the one who takes longer to approve things.

p.s. even reptile has trouble with mileena? she's just an all around pain, isn't she? lol
 

Spletty

Grandmaster
Okay so I was super bummed when I heard thhe reset was gone, but I then something happen happened that I would love iif someone tested to confirm. I was late on the ex ground freeze so it hit while they were grounded and I could continue with dash-b2. Any confirmation would be great :)
 

Husteen

Noob.
i bet tom's not happy right now because he has a whole bunch of things to change in his living guide =]

plus two characters.
 

salvificblood

Worst Sub-Zero Ever
Did the change the dash back to how it was before? It feels a bit more fluent again now and I can make it fullscreen for a full combo off an ex freeze (with human Sub) on an airborne opponent where I couldn't before...
 

Husteen

Noob.
Did the change the dash back to how it was before? It feels a bit more fluent again now and I can make it fullscreen for a full combo off an ex freeze (with human Sub) on an airborne opponent where I couldn't before...
sub's ice ball freezes the opponent for 10 more frames so now you can at least get a slide in! i'm guessing that's what you're experiencing. if he froze an opponent in the air from full screen, he'd get nothing. if he froze an opponent on the ground from full screen he may or may not get a slide.