Question - Sub-Zero Got the game early, q&a about Subzero moveset etc(no story spoilers)

[THTB]

im gonna give you numbers. First one is startup, next is on block and last is on hit

Ok so Reptiles normals are:

s1 = 9, 0, 11
b1 = 10,-3,18
d1 = 8,-3,16
s2 = 11, -1, 20
b2 = 10, 0, 61
f2 = 12, -10, -8
d2 = 9, -16, 26
s3 = 11, 0, 16
b3 = 14, 0, 13
f3 = 16, -4, 7
d3 = 8, -1, 14
s4 = 17, 0, 15
b4 = 13, -12, 20
f4 = 8, -4, -2
d4 = 11,1, 25

His dash is: 7, -17, 35

Good shit, sir!

He looks very similar to MK9 in terms of frame data. +1 on d4? Ooooooo I like!

What are the normals s3, and f4 like? And is f2 his palm? If so what's the frame data on the strings from it?

 

[PuLs4r]

Yo guys im back for about 2 hours. If you want some more info ask away and ill do my best to answer them.

Could you breakdown ermacs frame data ?

 

[Repulsar]

Even more on Raiden...

his 3,4 string hits high and then overhead
his b3,3 hits low and then mid
his f1,4 hits mid then low and its very fast
f4 covers a lot of ground but its kinda slow

About his teleports in displacer variation...

you cannot start jabbing right after the teleport...it has some recovery. Also when you add a direction for your tele in order to move behind forward etc, you loose half of your stamina bar...so you cant spam them.

The ex teleport can be delayed if you hold down the block button. When this happens Raiden goes full invisible for about 2 secs.

 

[Repulsar]

@Repulsar What are the frame advantages (for now anyway) on MB throws?

The frame data in game for the ex throws are all zero

 

[xXstealthflameXx]

If the frame data stayed generally like this, does that mean it'll be hard to keep block pressure at all? No one really has positive strings

 

[ShaolinGunFu]

His f4,2 the f1,2 and the f3,3 are all hit confirmable and can be canceled out for specials. The f3,3 string is holy shit awesome because is a 3 hit combo that hits mid,low,mid and covers a lot of screen space. Let me check on frames and ill report back.

does he have an overhead to mix with that low?

 

[shoshinsha]

Even more on Raiden...

his 3,4 string hits high and then overhead
his b3,3 hits low and then mid
his f1,4 hits mid then low and its very fast
f4 covers a lot of ground but its kinda slow

About his teleports in displacer variation...

you cannot start jabbing right after the teleport...it has some recovery. Also when you add a direction for your tele in order to move behind forward etc, you loose half of your stamina bar...so you cant spam them.

The ex teleport can be delayed if you hold down the block button. When this happens Raiden goes full invisible for about 2 secs.

Thanks! Are any of those strings safe or advantage on block? Special cancellable? You said his overhead is unsafe. Is it a starter? Cancellable?

 

[TrulyAmiracle]

Frame data on Jacqui full auto moves pls?

What does EX air ground pound do? just more damage?


Also check if she has any overheads aside from f2 (I think).. any of her strings + on block?

 

[ShaolinGunFu]

If the frame data stayed generally like this, does that mean it'll be hard to keep block pressure at all? No one really has positive strings

i think thats actually a good thing, when every char has posi strings, it becomes about whoever starts their offense first, have a few be pressure fighters but give those small damage combos

 

[Repulsar]

Good shit, sir!

He looks very similar to MK9 in terms of frame data. +1 on d4? Ooooooo I like!

What are the normals s3, and f4 like? And is f2 his palm? If so what's the frame data on the strings from it?

His s3 is a standard upkick. His f4 is a fast close range knee jab. f2 is like a forward punch that covers a good amount of ground.

 

[Wemfs]

Even more on Raiden...

his 3,4 string hits high and then overhead
his b3,3 hits low and then mid
his f1,4 hits mid then low and its very fast
f4 covers a lot of ground but its kinda slow

About his teleports in displacer variation...

you cannot start jabbing right after the teleport...it has some recovery. Also when you add a direction for your tele in order to move behind forward etc, you loose half of your stamina bar...so you cant spam them.

The ex teleport can be delayed if you hold down the block button. When this happens Raiden goes full invisible for about 2 secs.

I kind of like that how they made his tele cost some stamina to nullify teleport insanity. He's gonna have to be very careful with his teleports.

 

[Wemfs]

Would you please list all of Goro's normals please? Like you did with Reptile :]

 

[chores]

http://www.reddit.com/r/MortalKombat/comments/31r2sh/i_have_mortal_kombat_x_any_questions/

fair amount of move lists screenshots in that thread but also major story spoilers

 

[IrishMantis]

How are you finding the game in general compared to MK9 and IGAU at the moment?

 

[Shark Tank]

 

[Wemfs]

LOL!!

 

[Repulsar]

Ermac normals:

s1 = 10, 0, 8
b1 = 10, -9, 7
d1 = 5, -9, 10
s2 = 31, 0, -4 (soul charge)
f2 = 12, 0, 5
d2 = 7, -14, 25
s3 = 12, 0, 17
b3 = 12, -3, 12
f3 = 12, -2, 19
d3 = 7, -5, 15
s4 = 11, -1, 3
b4 = 9, -15, 17 (low)
f4 = 11, -20, -4 (overhead)
d4 = 10, -2, 13


Jacqui normals:

s1 = 6, 0, 11
b1 = 15, 0, 13
f1 = 14, 0, 18
d1 = 7, -6, 13
s2 = 12, 0, 20
b2 = 16, -4, 33 (overhead)
f2 = 16, 0, 10
d2 = 11, -7, 26
s3 = 13, -3, 8
b3 = 15, -1, 6 (low)
f3 = 23, -4, 45 can be followed up by an overhead or a low
d3 = 7, 4, 18
s4 = 10, -12, -1
b4 = 16, -9, 22
f4 = 32, 0, 47 covers a TON of screen space and can be followed by an overhead or a low
d4 = 10, -3, 20

Jacqui's mixup game seems to be very well done IMO. She has a lot of options after some of her normals.

 

[ruff321]

Mann how awesome would it be if someone started posting videos of all the frame data of everything for each character...just need to scroll through everything fast and we can let the PAUSE button to take care of the rest

 

[TopTierHarley]

The frame data in game for the ex throws are all zero

Ah, Thank you

 

[Circus]

@Repulsar

@Qwark28

What's the startup on Kano's normal and Ex UpBall?

Thank you.

 

[Repulsar]

How are you finding the game in general compared to MK9 and IGAU at the moment?

Its a better version of both. Movement is a lot better...dashes, walking speeds etc. The game feels faster overall.

 

[Repulsar]

Guys i think im gonna get some sleep...its 3:10am here in Greece...work tomorrow etc :S ill be back tomorrow first thing for more info.

 

[TotteryManx]

If the frame data stayed generally like this, does that mean it'll be hard to keep block pressure at all? No one really has positive strings

As of now it appears a lot of characters D4 on hit is really good to allow a follow up string. Also, some strings can be cancelled to give more advantage just like in past games. D4 can be cancelled as well I read. These things definitely remind me of MK9...just with running/stamina/interactables. However, I'm sure the frame data will change with a day 1 patch, which is why we shouldn't overreact.

 

[FluffyKittenPops]

JOHNNY CAGE Frame data and Moves et please. Along with his special moves would be great.

@Repulsar

@Qwark28

 

[WakeUp DP]

Some early Cryo Sub combos and their damages.

Meterless mid screen:

ji1,b1,2,ice ball,nj1,f4,2,1+3 - 12 hits 31%

ji1,f1,2,2,b1,2,ice ball,f3,3,slide - 10 hits 28%

ji1,f1,2,2,b1,2,ice ball,f4,2,1+3 - 14 hits 32%

Also his f1,2,2 string can be comboed with a throw for 19% damage da faq ? Sub grabs the opponent out of the air and throws him like a normal throw, either back or forward.

With 1 bar of meter midscreen:

ji1,b1,2,ice ball,ji1,f3,3,ex hammer,nj1,f4,2,1+3 - 16 hits 37% damage

Oh man now I'm scared... Why is the damage so damn low!