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M2Dave

Zoning Master
Good Games @General M2Dave but i don't wanna hear ANYTHING about fundamentals if all you do is backdash backdash forward dash grab. That was WAY too predictable so hold that 50-21! And My free flash bodied your characters so until you can give me a better looking score and not get away with online gimmicks,s t f u about me not having fundamentals scrub~!
I still <3 you though
I agree. Very good games.

Stick to simple-minded 50/50 mix up characters. Characters like Aquaman, Batman, and Zod are too complicated for you because they require fundamental knowledge.
 

SonicFox5000

The Best.
Fool, you tried Aquaman and Batman on my Zod. Unless you are able to get in for free and make me flip a coin, you look like me playing Bane or Doomsday. Your fundamentals are nonexistent.
My day 2 aquaman got a game off of your Zod. And Batman vs Zod is a matchup in your favor and I still managed to steal 3 games, both characters whom I DONT use. And you were looking MIGHTY confused on what to do when I picked flash and punished your backdash almost everytime. Hell I even picked batgirl and for nearly 10 games straight you started the match with a backdash, its amazing. YOUR fundamentals are non existent
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
My day 2 aquaman got a game off of your Zod. And Batman vs Zod is a matchup in your favor and I still managed to steal 3 games, both characters whom I DONT use. And you were looking MIGHTY confused on what to do when I picked flash and punished your backdash almost everytime. Hell I even picked batgirl and for nearly 10 games straight you started the match with a backdash, its amazing. YOUR fundamentals are non existent
I have never claimed to have good fundamentals. Besides, The Flash is whatever online. You have to just frame punish regular torpedo on block. Blocking online f+3 is like blocking Killer Frost's f+3 offline. Crouching and punishing b+2,2 is very difficult. Anti-airing jumping 2 is almost impossible. And so on.

Anyway, my question is, why are you upset? I never said you were a bad player. You are the best 50/50 mix up player in the world, but your fundamentals are the by far the worst of any high level Injustice player I ever fought. I do not see anything special about your gameplay style.
 
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SonicFox5000

The Best.
I have never claimed to have good fundamentals. Besides, The Flash is whatever online. You have to just frame punish regular torpedo on block. Blocking online f+3 is like blocking Killer Frost's f+3 offline. Crouching and punishing b+2,2 is very difficult. Anti-airing jumping 2 is almost impossible. And so on.

Anyway, my question is, why are you upset? I never said you were a bad player. You are the best 50/50 mix up player in the world, but your fundamentals are the by far the worst of any high level Injustice player I ever fought. I do not see anything special about your gameplay style.
I am not upset. I just disprove of you saying I don't have fundamentals when they are actually better than a lot of high level injustice players. You can hate on me for using a "Simple minded" 50/50 character, but when you say I have no fundamentals is where you are so wrong lol. And Injustice is not the game to test fundamentals in.
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
I just disprove of you saying I don't have fundamentals when they are actually better than a lot of high level injustice players.
They are not. I can easily name 15 players with superior fundamentals, but this thread is not the place. As evidenced even by your Zod, which was apparently going to beat me bad, you go "crazy" and try to do nothing but 50/50 mix ups. When the mix ups are not an option, you dash forward like lunatic and have no clue what to do.

I enjoy fighting you and I hope we play again, but that is my sincere assessment of your style of play.
 

SonicFox5000

The Best.
They are not. I can easily name 15 players with superior fundamentals, but this thread is not the place. As evidenced even by your Zod, which was apparently going to beat me bad, you go "crazy" and try to do nothing but 50/50 mix ups. When the mix ups are not an option, you dash forward like lunatic and have no clue what to do.

I enjoy fighting you and I hope we play again, but that is my sincere assessment of your style of play.
You played Sinestro against my Zod. What you want me to try and win the fullscreen war when you have the life lead? And no I don't just dash forward like a lunatic, I plan my way in. But what would you know about playing fundamentally if you don't even get to see your opponents do so given the chance to keep the fullscreen for the whole game.
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
You played Sinestro against my Zod. What you want me to try and win the fullscreen war when you have the life lead? And no I don't just dash forward like a lunatic, I plan my way in. But what would you know about playing fundamentally if you don't even get to see your opponents do so given the chance to keep the fullscreen for the whole game.
You did not "plan your way in". You were aerial charging aimlessly because Zod does not have a teleport that leads into a safe 50/50 mix up that loops.

Besides, Zod beats Sinestro from full screen unless the life lead is significant or Sinestro has trait.
 

SonicFox5000

The Best.
You did not "plan your way in". You were aerial charging aimlessly because Zod does not have a teleport that leads into a safe 50/50 mix up that loops.

Besides, Zod beats Sinestro from full screen unless the life lead is significant or Sinestro has trait.
Yep because im supposed to know how to play matchups with characters i dont care to main/co main. And whats more interesting is that you think i rely on teleporting to win. Just because i have the option doesnt mean its safe to use. Just randomly throwing it out is the fastest way to die. Hell, if I didnt have fundamentals, i wouldnt have won any tourny ever. I can agree that they used to be bad, but now they are better than alot of inj players. Hence, im the only batgirl thats actualy doing something with her. My teleport is based on a read. I dont have a one button lose 20% or more of life due to chip mechanic or a projectile that stops more than 80 % of the cast to even progress. If you wanna play me fundamentally, then do so with a character that I actually can. Not with a character where i only make reads. Fortunately with batgirl i only need to make one to kill you.
 

JDM

Noob
Sonicfox is amazing but it's true his fundamentals are lacking.

Fundamentals are overrated in current fighters anyways. :)
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
I can agree that they used to be bad, but now they are better than alot of inj players.
They were bad. They are average now. You win because, as you said yourself, "fortunately, one read is all I need". One of the best and most recent examples was your match against Rico's Black Adam. You were clearly getting out-played in every facet of the match, but one read was all you needed to win.

Hey, I know I am great at zoning and mediocre at everything else. You are in denial and will face a reality check in Mortal Kombat X... if the game is any good.
 

SonicFox5000

The Best.
They were bad. They are average now. You win because, as you said yourself, "fortunately, one read is all I need". One of the best and most recent examples was your match against Rico's Black Adam. You were clearly getting out-played in every facet of the match, but one read was all you needed to win.

Hey, I know I am great at zoning and mediocre at everything else. You are in denial and will face a reality check in Mortal Kombat X... if the game is any good.
So just because I play one setplay character against rico which is a match HE CHOSE TO PLAY (that matchup is heavily 6-4 BG) and was outplaying means my fundamentals are bad? He could've easily opted to goto Aquaman and get a different outcome. Many characters in street fighter only need 1 read and can Setplay you to death. Sure he is way more fundamentally advanced than I am, but thats not the only thing you can rely on. If I didn't have good fundamentals, I wouldn't have been able to beat him, or anybody else for that matter. You need to also pay attention to how the game works and what happens with it. Most characters in this game go in for 50/50s. He played a lame character vs a Setplay character and that is not my problem due to how Setplay works. And in every fighter there is usually a Setplay character, but that doesn't mean I main them. And even in MK9 I was relevant when I played Mileena, who may I add did NOT have any 50/50s. I picked up Sonya when the game was deadd. And you are saying I am in denial with my fundamentals, and I will face a reality check in MKX but, I am relevant in like 5 other games that require it. I will forever make you eat these words when MKX comes out. And your trying to give me a talk about fundamentals, yet all you do is play top tier NRS zoning characters that don't allow the player to even move half the time or guarantee you free 20% or more chip. Play a game like UNIEL where only smart and strong fundamentals allow me to win then talk to me about fundamentals since you don't seem to have a good idea about how they work
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
:|

Sonicfox won like 50-21, right?
So does it really matter what Dave thinks? End of the day, he lost.
Could credit every word to pure unfiltered salt.
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
I know. What gets me the most is that he's talking about simple minded 50/50s yet he plays a character in both MK9 AND Injustice that can both zone and do 50/50s on you wtf lol
I wouldn't let it get to you.
Says Bane players cried for buffs.
Actual truth is we stopped asking for buffs once we got an actual dash which was 1.01.
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
MKX will have 50/50 mixups so naw
Will they require meter? Will they be safe? Will they loop? Will a character with great mobility have them? We do not know the specifics.

Batgirl would be balanced if she did not have the teleport. If she has safe 50/50 mix ups that loop, make these "fundamental Gods" close the gap in a traditional manner. I would bet any money they would never be able to get in.

Says Bane players cried for buffs.
They did.

They also cried for nerfs to Black Adam and Deathstroke allowing Martian Manhunter and Batgirl to dominate.
 

SonicFox5000

The Best.
Will they require meter? Will they be safe? Will they loop? Will a character with great mobility have them? We do not know the specifics.

Batgirl would be balanced if she did not have the teleport. If she has safe 50/50 mix ups that loop, make these "fundamental Gods" close the gap in a traditional manner. I would bet any money they would never be able to get in.



They did.

They also cried for nerfs to Black Adam and Deathstroke allowing Martian Manhunter and Batgirl to dominate.
You only hate her teleport because it makes you have to actually think about trying to zone lol