Official UMK3:TE Changelog and Discussion Thread

[DWednesday]

Everyone is top 5 on the tier list!
*raises hammer and sickle*

But some s are more equal than other s.

 

[mkholic]

It emulates resetting the cabinet, not the connection or MAME program.

what i'm saying is if desyncs are not very frequent u don't need to go through all steps of hosting the game from the start, u don't have to have an emulator with a rollback feature either, simply loading a save state or resetting the game works like a charm

 

[nwo]

what i'm saying is if desyncs are not very frequent u don't need to go through all steps of hosting the game from the start, u don't have to have an emulator with a rollback feature either, simply loading a save state or resetting the game works like a charm

Resetting the game after a desync almost never works, I'm talking about p2p. Since they aren't very frequent, restarting MAME is not an issue anyway.

 

[xGame0ve12x]

Hey. Hope this isn't considered spam since I've not played the game to provide feedback however I just wanted to say I'm excited that you guys put all the effort in to make this happen. I stumbled into TYM based on a neogaf thread and a curiosity at what had become of the scene since UMK3 on live was killed. I thought we had a great little communiy way back when and had quite a lot of fun on ultimatemk.com. So hi to all the old familiar faces and let me know if there's anything I can do to help out.

 

[Juggs]

Hey. Hope this isn't considered spam since I've not played the game to provide feedback however I just wanted to say I'm excited that you guys put all the effort in to make this happen. I stumbled into TYM based on a neogaf thread and a curiosity at what had become of the scene since UMK3 on live was killed. I thought we had a great little communiy way back when and had quite a lot of fun on ultimatemk.com. So hi to all the old familiar faces and let me know if there's anything I can do to help out.

Damn, game over, I remember playing with you a lot. Welcome!

 

[tehdrewsus]

So did we get any footage of tournament edition played at NEC over the weekend?

 

[Eddy Wang]

General

-Spear characters: Scorpion, H.Smoke and R.Smoke - after successfully landing a spear, the stun animation is disabled if you jump. The disabling is similar, in the way it works, to a freeze, ground freeze (Sub) and net (Cyrax) without the stun being disabled when they leave the ground, and these three characters should be able to leave the ground as well without losing the stun after a spear.

This needs to happen honestly.

 

[DWednesday]

Just in case anyone is interested in RoboHomo...

http://testyourmight.com/threads/umk3-te-robot-smoke-mu-specific-kombo-reference.47312/

 

[tehdrewsus]

Anybody up for some TE on the hub?

 

[DWednesday]

So is the discussion now dead because the Beta is out?
I would have thought that there was even more to discuss for that very reason? :/

Anyone?

 

[Konqrr]

So is the discussion now dead because the Beta is out?
I would have thought that there was even more to discuss for that very reason? :/

Anyone?

Agreed ;_;

The hacker is taking some time off now that the beta is out, but there are many more changes and updates in the future.

 

[THTB]

I need to get back on and play with some people, but Omega SFIV is gonna make it hard to want to... ;_;

Yes, I'm that excited for Omega.

 

[DWednesday]

A few things from me, that might be good for discussing:

1. Is the corner shit now? Is there any reason not to play at midscreen?
   
2. Do CSub, Sheeva, and various others need damage nerfs?
3. Should attacks that look low (Kang's low FB, Mil's roll, etc), hit low? Should attacks that don't look low, hit not low (*cough*leggrab*cough*)?
4. Should Robo's invis be the same length as Hsmo and Rep's? (I think yes, but hey, I'm a scrub)
5. Should the TPU juggle an airbourne opponent on the same side as a preceding aa, or the opposite side?
6. Do you think that Hsmo and Scorp will ever be on the same level without completely redoing the "vanilla" play style of one of them? (My personal opinion)
7. Can we please change the input of Sektor's 5 hit to HP,HP,HK,HK,F+HK and keep the 4 hit at HP,HP,HK,B+HK?
8. When's Mahvel?

 

[tehdrewsus]

(I think yes, but hey, I'm a scrub)

I am a quasi-serious when I say that's part of the reason I've kept my mouth shut for a lot of this besides bug reporting.
I'm not old school and I haven't played the game "long enough" to have any valuable input, in the opinions of some, that have been expressed through public posts and private messages, so I'm staying mum.

But I do agree the corner has to be fixed. There is no incentive on putting the opponent there now

 

[Juggs]

1. Is the corner shit now? Is there any reason not to play at midscreen?

Go to 13:20, my uSub vs REO's Kung Lao. (starts more at 13:36 though)

The corner is not as deadly because you can't corner jab infinite. But it's still dangerous, but it's more for the reasons of traditional fighters. Being cornered limits your options and mobility, and limiting what your opponent can do is always something you should be trying to do.

Do CSub, Sheeva, and various others need damage nerfs?

I don't think so. Certainly not CSub, lol

Should attacks that look low (Kang's low FB, Mil's roll, etc), hit low? Should attacks that don't look low, hit not low (*cough*leggrab*cough*)?

No.

Should Robo's invis be the same length as Hsmo and Rep's? (I think yes, but hey, I'm a scrub)

No.

Should the TPU juggle an airbourne opponent on the same side as a preceding aa, or the opposite side?

Doesn't matter.

 

[DWednesday]

I don't think so. Certainly not CSub, lol

No one at all?

No.

Why not?

No.

Why not?

Doesn't matter.

Does it not?

 

[tehdrewsus]

No one at all?Why not?Why not?Does it not?

Thank you! I would like some explanations as well, instead of this "my opinions are gospel" attitude

 

[Juggs]

No one at all?Why not?Why not?Does it not?

Thank you! I would like some explanations as well, instead of this "my opinions are gospel" attitude

If you want me to explain why I respond saying "no", you first have to explain the reasoning for why you think it should be "yes".

 

[tehdrewsus]

If you want me to explain why I respond saying "no", you first have to explain the reasoning for why you think it should be "yes".

I didn't ask the questions… LOL.

And thank you for being so helpful. That's not AT ALL the kind of response I would expect out of a moderator on a site like this. "If you want to know why it is a no you must explain why you think it is a yes". Seriously? The guy is just asking a few questions, and you can't be bothered to take the time to give an educated explanation of your opinion

 

[Juggs]

I didn't ask the questions… LOL

Thank you! I would like some explanations as well, instead of this "my opinions are gospel" attitude

 

[tehdrewsus]

I just said I would like explanations AS WELL. LOL. Again, not the one asking the questions. But I'm gonna let this go. You're absolutely right. You win

 

[Juggs]

If you're going to ask "Should this be this" and not explain why you think it should, then don't expect an explanation from someone who thinks it shouldn't.

 

[tehdrewsus]

Ok

 

[Juggs]

Considering you've had more experience with this game then anyone besides the hacker… I thought you would enjoy expressing your opinion, if you had one… Guess I was wrong

You're missing the point entirely.

The questions he asked were seemingly trivial, aside from the one I did "explain", which neither of you commented on by the way. But regardless, he didn't say why he thinks they "should". My response is "no", the response to that is "why shouldn't it?", so my response is "why should it?".

 

[DWednesday]

If you want me to explain why I respond saying "no", you first have to explain the reasoning for why you think it should be "yes".

In regards to lows - Kabal's saw, and Rep/The Subs' slides got changed to lows, why not other moves?

In regards to Invisibility - I think the current length of Robot's Invis is still too long. @Konqrr said that this was because Robot was a less-active character than H.Smo and Rep, yet I'm not too sure how I feel about that statement.

In regards to the TPU- It matters because it provides certain advantages/disadvantages depending on which side of the screen you're on.

If you're going to ask "Should this be this" and not explain why you think it should, then don't expect an explanation from someone who thinks it shouldn't.

TBH, I was asking because I was interested in the views of other players. Wasn't really fishing for "This scrub knows jack-shit" responses. (My apologies if it wasn't intended in that way, just came across like that, what with there being no tone in text and all that.)