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Eldriken

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Kyu said:
Bane's standing 3, f1 are both horrible normals. For his worst special, I don't really know because all of his specials have good uses. Maybe air grab or venom uppercut?
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How the HELL could Venom Upper be his worst move? I hate that fucking thing.

Or are you talking regular and not MB?
 
Kyu

Kyu

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Eldriken said:
How the HELL could Venom Upper be his worst move? I hate that fucking thing.

Or are you talking regular and not MB?
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Regular is bad. MB isn't terrible. I'm just thinking about it like outside of combos, because why wouldn't I just d2 someone?
 
DarksydeDash

DarksydeDash

You know me as RisingShieldBro online.
HeroesNZ said:
F2D13 is great for genuine OTG 50/50s and other corner shenanigans - Although I hate that the 3 doesn't come out on block
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The OTGs using F2d13 can be "fuzzy guarded" or reacted to. If the player dashes afterwards its going to cross up, if not it stays same side. Also if it doesn't hit crossup midscreen, he can't combo off it. Not to mention it randomly puts you into the corner when used as an ender ruining the "OTG" setup the player would be going for.
 
DarksydeDash

DarksydeDash

You know me as RisingShieldBro online.
xInfra Deadx said:
Some others...

Cyborg: B231. It sucks.

DS: B1,D3

Flash: 1,1,3

Lex: 2,1,3

Martian: D2. Completely outclassed by Standing 3. No point.

Nightwing: Everything.

Scorpion: F2,2,D3

Shazam: 1,2,F3/B3. Was already mentioned, but yeah.

Sinestro: 1,1,U3. Does this need explanantion?

Grundy: F2,2,3

Supes: 1,1,2. Techable on juggled opponents and worthless.
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Wow I forgot about 112.. I guess that's how useless it is.
 
TKB

TKB

Warrior
Kyu said:
Regular is bad. MB isn't terrible. I'm just thinking about it like outside of combos, because why wouldn't I just d2 someone?
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Seriously, this is as bad as WoundCowboy saying Boulder is a bad special.

Kyle, venom uppercut is broken. You know it is. That move as a wakeup is fucking stupid and let's not forget the classic "dash up in your face and venom uppercut". I can recall more than once being in the corner and having to stand there and block MB venom uppercut 4 times in a row from you.
 
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Kyu

Kyu

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TelekineticBeing said:
Seriously, this is as bad as WoundCowboy saying Boulder is a bad special.

Kyle, venom uppercut is broken. You know it is. That move as a wakeup is fucking stupid and let's not forget the classic "dash up in your face and venom uppercut". I can recall more than once being in the corner and having to stand there and block MB venom uppercut 4 times in a row from you.
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Ok well maybe it's not horrible. Plus sides is it has good chip on MB, great wakeup, safe with delayed MB, and nothing beats "just dash up uppercut to win bruh"
 
TKB

TKB

Warrior
Kyu said:
Ok well maybe it's not horrible. Plus sides is it has good chip on MB, great wakeup, safe with delayed MB, and nothing beats "just dash up uppercut to win bruh"
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I know the non MB is punishable but who can punish the MB version? It has sooo much pushback.
 
Kyu

Kyu

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TelekineticBeing said:
I know the non MB is punishable but who can punish the MB version? It has sooo much pushback.
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I think the full delay MB is only -8 or -7? @Doombawkz I'll bet he knows it. Also this is something you should be doing in the MU, Raptor does it consistently. When I do VU, just dash under the mb and do a b1u2 punish. Not sure if you can dash under instant MB but delayed you can for sure.
 
trustinme

trustinme

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Sadly both mk9 and injustice are littered with stacks of absolutely pointless strings that have no purpose whatsoever.
it's hard for me to single out 1 in particular.
 
Qwark28

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
Joker's 33 is the most useless out of all his moves, at least HRG can be used after some knockdowns for chip damage and guaranteed blockstrings.
 
TKB

TKB

Warrior
Kyu said:
I think the full delay MB is only -8 or -7? @Doombawkz I'll bet he knows it. Also this is something you should be doing in the MU, Raptor does it consistently. When I do VU, just dash under the mb and do a b1u2 punish. Not sure if you can dash under instant MB but delayed you can for sure.
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Yeah I knew about that I thought you were saying if you block the whole thing some characters can punish.
 
HeroesNZ

HeroesNZ

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DarksydeDash said:
The OTGs using F2d13 can be "fuzzy guarded" or reacted to. If the player dashes afterwards its going to cross up, if not it stays same side. Also if it doesn't hit crossup midscreen, he can't combo off it. Not to mention it randomly puts you into the corner when used as an ender ruining the "OTG" setup the player would be going for.
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How can they be reacted to? They're exactly the same as any other Divebomb 50/50, and once you get used to the timing you rarely go over your opponent.
 
Zyphox

Zyphox

What is going on guys, Ya Boi Zyphox here.
you know that most of these moves are bad when you have to get in training mode just find out what each of them actually look like.

and flash's 113 string is the only string i couldn't really find tech for, if you ever see a flash player do it, the game is already over lol
 
Aphistemi

Aphistemi

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Lex Luthor's meter burn gravity mine, lex has no real damaging combos, he relies heavliy on setups, and the opportunity when they are caught in his mine to waste it on a meter with slight negative recovery frames (no time to throw in a B3 or anything alike) is completely useless, it's also annoying because sometimes I want to throw out a meter burn B3 but instead I end up burning the mine.. I rather save that meter for a MB gravity pull that can follow up to 40/50%
 
Doombawkz

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
Kyu said:
I think the full delay MB is only -8 or -7? @Doombawkz I'll bet he knows it. Also this is something you should be doing in the MU, Raptor does it consistently. When I do VU, just dash under the mb and do a b1u2 punish. Not sure if you can dash under instant MB but delayed you can for sure.
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Full delay? Its -5, and increases advantage the further out they are. Its only unsafe if they are point blank and you rush it.
Also dashing under isn't full-proof, as you'll be mostly safe if they try to punish the MB but it never comes.
Likewise, if you dash under and rush a punish expecting the normal version, 500lbs of Bane's upper torso will come crashing down with a hit of armor included.

If you are in the corner, it auto-corrects and puts his legs out front. Great for fighting DDs who try to dash-over ES because our armor and rearmor syncs up well with his two hits.
 
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rev0lver

rev0lver

Come On Die Young
Aphistemi said:
Lex Luthor's meter burn gravity mine, lex has no real damaging combos, he relies heavliy on setups, and the opportunity when they are caught in his mine to waste it on a meter with slight negative recovery frames (no time to throw in a B3 or anything alike) is completely useless, it's also annoying because sometimes I want to throw out a meter burn B3 but instead I end up burning the mine.. I rather save that meter for a MB gravity pull that can follow up to 40/50%
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He gets resets with it tho. In really situational mine hits where they tech roll. But it's a legit reset and no one will see it coming. Plus swag combos when you have enough meter. Not useless imo
 
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