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[Jimmypotato]

Does anyone else find it really dumb that you cannot trade items with other players.

In a game that is all about getting better gear, you can't trade anything with people that are there running around right in front of you.

Very frustrating.

 

[AK Stormthegates]

Does anyone else find it really dumb that you cannot trade items with other players.

In a game that is all about getting better gear, you can't trade anything with people that are there running around right in front of you.

Very frustrating.

Its really hard to trade gear right now because it could potentially cause an imbalance and make the release shit this early fucking piss easy. Give them a couple of months it seems like they are going to be tweaking as they go with more content.

 

[mfkaoz]

Do strikes to try to get above 8 light on each piece of gear and after that try to grind rep and patrols to get vanguard 2. I'm going to hit it when I get home after class and i should hit 26 after that.

I think this is the least RNG way to do things. I got lucky by getting a Legendary chest in the mail from ranking up the Cryptarch but thats about it. I also need to level crucible a little more but my weapons SUCK for pvp. Shottys and Fast ARs are too strong right now.

Doing strikes is the last thing I wanna do
God, strikes are terrible.

 

[AK Stormthegates]

Doing strikes is the last thing I wanna do
God, strikes are terrible.

Honestly just get a gun with over 220 damage. EVERY FUCKING STRIKE IS PISS EASY at that cap. Like Devil's Liar consistently take me 10-15 minutes now. Also Fusion rifles are dumb as fuck.

 

[Jdizzle31]

just hit level 27

Still haven't been able to find a raid team though. This game needs a chat system

 

[mfkaoz]

Honestly just get a gun with over 220 damage. EVERY FUCKING STRIKE IS PISS EASY at that cap. Like Devil's Liar consistently take me 10-15 minutes now. Also Fusion rifles are dumb as fuck.

I just did that strike pretty quickly with this auto rifle I have. Too bad I didn't get anything better than what I have on now.

 

[Jdizzle31]

Honestly just get a gun with over 220 damage. EVERY FUCKING STRIKE IS PISS EASY at that cap. Like Devil's Liar consistently take me 10-15 minutes now. Also Fusion rifles are dumb as fuck.

I take it you haven't played a nightfall or weekly heroic strike yet

 

[Fractured_Shadow]

I take it you haven't played a nightfall or weekly heroic strike yet

Lmfao I was just thinking that. I laugh so hard when people actually start playing the challenging shit for the first time and I hear them rage.

Nothing better than running the level 28 nightfall strike with some of my friends friends who are rocking rare gear only and watching them get pancaked.

 

[AK Stormthegates]

I take it you haven't played a nightfall or weekly heroic strike yet

I meant it in terms of starting 20 grinds not th heroics. Those require alot more obviously lol.

 

[Justice]

I tried a weekly strike but since there's no matchmaking for it I had to go solo. I lasted 5 minutes. I ran into 1 wizard and I couldn't even hit him before he'd 1-shot me

 

[Saboteur-6]

THIS. If I tried to do what we did this morning by myself I seriously would fall asleep with the controller in my hand.

Having friends to shit talk with and screw around a little makes a huge difference.

@Saboteur-6 if you play on PS4, I'll gladly grind that cave spot with you a bit

If I only had a PS4. The struggle of last gen...

 

[mfkaoz]

If I only had a PS4. The struggle of last gen...

@Dja_Homies
@Vengeance135

 

[Eldriken]

About an hour and a half or so of Engram farming.

It doesn't include the Engrams that I picked up the hour or so previous.

Altogether, I found about 8 legendary Engrams, 30~ blues and hundreds of greens.

My Cryptarch is now almost 11. :O

 

[TKB]

About an hour and a half or so of Engram farming.

It doesn't include the Engrams that I picked up the hour or so previous.

Altogether, I found about 8 legendary Engrams, 30~ blues and hundreds of greens.

My Cryptarch is now almost 11. :O

Lol way to make me jealous.

I got lots of blues and greens but no legendary yet

 

[Justice]

And I was so proud that I just got my Cryptarc to 3

 

[mfkaoz]

We farmed that place for almost 3 hours yesterday and I got maybe 20 blues and a shitload of greens.

 

[Saboteur-6]

We farmed that place for almost 3 hours yesterday and I got maybe 20 blues and a shitload of greens.

I dont know how you can do that without your grasp on sanity slipping.

This game is soooooo grindy man and not really in a fun way. I think I might chill and finally beat the story and see what happens with the weekly added content. There's supposed to be this big unfolding Destiny plan so...we'll see.

I mean at what point is it reduced to this:

And you should know this: The appeal of loot grind as a gameplay mechanic
I can't help but look at a lot of these RNG contemporary gameplay conventions as exploitation.

 

[mfkaoz]

I dont know how you can do that without your grasp on sanity slipping.

This game is soooooo grindy man and not really in a fun way. I think I might chill and finally beat the story and see what happens with the weekly added content. There's supposed to be this big unfolding Destiny plan so...we'll see.

I mean at what point is it reduced to this:

Trust me, I hate grinding as much as anyone. Being in a party with friends makes it go by so much faster.

 

[Jdizzle31]

so i finally got a chance to have a go at a raid and daaayuuum. Unless EVERY player on your team is at least lvl 26 and the majority of them are using mics dont even bother lol
but it really is fun, you dont have to get far to realise how much work and depth bungie put in to it

 

[Saboteur-6]

so i finally got a chance to have a go at a raid and daaayuuum. Unless EVERY player on your team is at least lvl 26 and the majority of them are using mics dont even bother lol
but it really is fun, you dont have to get far to realise how much work and depth bungie put in to it

See this is the sole thing that's keeping me going. I just want to have a go at the challenge of the Raid.

 

[Eldriken]

See this is the sole thing that's keeping me going. I just want to have a go at the challenge of the Raid.

If you can't mindlessly grind, get some people in a party to talk to or listen to podcasts.

But trust me, I get bored of it until I start seeing Engrams popping out of enemies like candy from a pinata.

I've seen four Engrams pop out at once and 3 of them were blue. It really makes you want to keep going.

 

[Saboteur-6]

If you can't mindlessly grind, get some people in a party to talk to or listen to podcasts.

But trust me, I get bored of it until I start seeing Engrams popping out of enemies like candy from a pinata.

I've seen four Engrams pop out at once and 3 of them were blue. It really makes you want to keep going.

Loot drops aren't that exciting for me in and of themselves to be honest. It's the fact that they're basically a gatekeeper metric to the Raid content. I try not to be analytical about this shit man but my background is in behavioral psychology so I can't help it.

I mean think about it...you're dumping a HUGE amount of time...we're talking HOURS...into essentially bumping up an arbitrary stat number. And to what end? I mean does having a 500 Defense significantly change the game in any way from a gameplay perspective? Sure yeah, Enemies that would one shot you with a 400 Armor you can now take 1 - 2 times on the chin but....really...how big of a deal is that? How much does that change the overall experience of the combat? How much gameplay versatility does it give you in a class build?

RNG and loot drops are an exploitation of variable-ratio positive reinforcement. Humans as a SPECIES are extremely succestible to it to which is why it's one of the FIRST things to get monetized and micro transed in video games. It's why people play the lotto or dump an entire pay check into a slot machine. It's ALSO what fuels fixed-ratio reinforcement...the Marks and Rep systems. These are static gains set an EXTREMLEY high level to keep you clicking that bar like a good lab rat.

It pisses me off man because it's not REAL content, it's smoke and mirrors and behavioral manipulation.

Here's some perspective once the dust settles: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/69775333/0/0

 

[Eldriken]

Loot drops aren't that exciting for me in and of themselves to be honest. It's the fact that they're basically a gatekeeper metric to the Raid content. I try not to be analytical about this shit man but my background is in behavioral psychology so I can't help it.

I mean think about it...you're dumping a HUGE amount of time...we're talking HOURS...into essentially bumping up an arbitrary stat number. And to what end? I mean does having a 500 Defense significantly change the game in any way from a gameplay perspective? Sure yeah, Enemies that would one shot you with a 400 Armor you can now take 1 - 2 times on the chin but....really...how big of a deal is that? How much does that change the overall experience of the combat? How much gameplay versatility does it give you in a class build?

RNG and loot drops are an exploitation of variable-ratio positive reinforcement. Humans as a SPECIES are extremely succestible to it to which is why it's one of the FIRST things to get monetized and micro transed in video games. It's why people play the lotto or dump an entire pay check into a slot machine. It's ALSO what fuels fixed-ratio reinforcement...the Marks and Rep systems. These are static gains set an EXTREMLEY high level to keep you clicking that bar like a good lab rat.

It pisses me off man because it's not REAL content, it's smoke and mirrors and behavioral manipulation.

Here's some perspective once the dust settles: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/69775333/0/0

Speaking of your Armor stat...it's something that REALLY annoys me.

Why is it that my Armor rating is like 50x higher than it was at the beginning of the game, but the very same enemies I encountered in the beginning of the game can still do significant damage to me? It makes no sense. Just like how I'm not one-shotting practically every enemy below level 15 unless it's a headshot with a sniper rifle/hand cannon.

There's no real sense of progression as far as damage caused goes, either.

But aside from all that, I agree with what you said. I suppose I'm just more tolerant of it.

 

[Chaosphere]

Hey guys, don't really want to read through 19 pages. Is there an Xbox One TYM Destiny group? I would love to add some of you guys. I've been going nuts on that game as of late. Would love to have people to play with that aren't filthy casuals. =P

 

[Justice]

In the mmo world, they generally charge a monthly fee to play. They input mechanics like grinding for gears to keep you playing (and paying) every month. It's a time sink and nothing more. Casuals will generally avoid it but hardcores will do it keeping in mind the goal of end-game content.