Not wanting him there and outright banning him are two different things. Yes, if a person said some bad shit about my tournament I wouldn't be thrilled and would probably hope he doesn't show up again. But banning him is some pretty dictator-y shit. They had issues with the tournament, they spoke up. There were a million better ways to deal with this than banning them.
I'd ban him, fgc grow up, illuminati bs right here, a TO is doing his job. Besides they have been talking, noones business but theirs.
Both parties are vague about what happened, who talked shit first and why x person didn't approach ther other party directly but started complaining elsewhere. But if you want this problem solved, then you gotta go to Big E or Shinblanka and talk it out like a man. If you're not going to these tournament nothing will get solved and worst case scenario tournaments die about because people follow these bad examples. IF kinghippo wants to solve this problem then he should go and talk to to Big E in person.
I find the idea of banning someone from going to a tournament because they spoke their mind preposterous.
If I want this problem solved I'd let them attend, make sure I do a better job, and leave them nothing to bitch about. Then, anything that happened previously becomes old news. This is only making matters worse and forcing everyone to hang on to what happened.
All 3 people in here? And making matters worse is trying to bring it up to try and stop others from attending as well, it's shit like this that bring the community down, rather than try and help it grow. 2 of our members dont want to support a few majors, OH FUCKING WELL. Lets try and and get 2 more members to go rather than bitch about 2 not going.
What gave you the impression that I'm suggesting people should boycott the tournament unless 16 Bit and Pig are unbanned? I'm just saying they shouldn't be banned, period. Every argument I've heard so far doesn't address the issue.
It's between them, you don't know what went down, and it's up to them.
Doesn't KIT this year have a bigger bonus?
2k, big e offered 1k no entry and winner going to final round, also the 2 other tournaments already coming up in SJ and TFC btw. :]
aquaman pls
Yup, we're fucking trash for being against banning players.
I want someone to make a Homer Simpson meme saying #Free16Pig instead of #SpiderPig lol
Everybody is pretty cool. This is not directed at you, but this is what always happens: Somebody puts forward genuine concerns and articulates them properly (in this case Hippo). People expect drama. People act like there IS drama even when there isn't (in this case Mr. Aquaman and to a lesser extent your above comment). The posts in this thread are (surprisingly) level-headed. But of course, what always happens is some guy from the other side of the arguments gets too emotional, things escalate, thread gets closed. It's like we're conditioned to expect this so we drive it in that direction.
How do you know they weren't professional? Being professional does not mean you can't raise / discuss valid concerns, all it means is that you do so in a thoughtful, constructive way.
If they were professional their concerns would have been listened to. Bitching about negative stuff, nixed with ego of tournament play ends in bad situations. No offense to you pig if you read this, but from what the situation sounds like there's a very apt song which goes "anything you can do I can do better than you". Nothing to do with me but if people went to you and 16Bit and cried, using top players as voices to point out all the bad things that TO did, regardless if they were bad or not, maybe add diplomacy and mention the good things as well. Peace yo.
If that's the impression you got from my comment, I will apologize as I must not have worded it properly. Different mindsets I suppose.
Shock, Kombat Network and co aren't exactly open to even the most respectful kind of criticism, at least if this forum is any indication.
The problem is that they have tried, multiple times, to talk to Big E and ShinBlanka. But they pretty much had no interest in listening.
To me, I honestly don't care about the reasons unless they are truly ban worthy (ie violent behavior, serious disparaging, etc...). It would probably be better if we actually don't know what really went down and they all handle it in private to avoid needless drama. However, judging from what I've read from all the concerned parties, I don't see how what 16 Bit and Pig said (regardless of whether you or I agree with it or not) is ban worthy.