Question What is the concept behind moves with armor?

[WAR-BLAST]

Would someone explain to me in depth the characteristics of armored moves? What other advantages do they have besides just going through normals moves or specials? Any disadvantages? Do two armor moves cancel each other out, or what happens in this instance? Thanks guys.

 

[VenomX-90]

Ask Shao Kahn...Lol but seriously I think in general is to make the character have an advantage somewhat to other characters.

 

[BRUTALITY]

some characters lack strong footsies because not all characters are footsies characters. those characters have armoured moves to help their neutral game. or in mortal kombat they gave all the SSS++ tier characters armor to help their bad matchups :/

 

[CrimsonShadow]

Hehe.. This has simple roots, but can turn into a complex topic.

The basis of armor is that it allows you to take a hit and keep attacking rather than being placed into hitstun. This often means that you can take the hit and then hit your opponent before he recovers from his own attack. There are various types of armor that have different properties; you might take the full damage of the hit you absorbed, you might take less, and you might take no damage in certain cases.

Depending on what type of armor it is, it might absorb 1 hit, or multiple hits. 1-hit is pretty common, but there are often special abilities or types of armor that absorb more than one hit in certain games.

In a basic 1-hit vs. 1-hit armor situation, often in NRS games the 2nd armor will win out. So for example in Injustice, if one person meter burns a F3, and then his opponent also meter burns a F3 quickly enough, the second one will absorb the hit from the first F3 and land. But not all types of armor react this way, and there are other things to consider -- like what frame the armor starts on (it's not always the entire attack), what type of armor it is, and how long it lasts.

Anyway, there are a ton of different situations, but hopefully this helps you get started with understanding what's going on.

 

[CURBOLICOUS]

Would someone explain to me in depth the characteristics of armored moves? What other advantages do they have besides just going through normals moves or specials? Any disadvantages? Do two armor moves cancel each other out, or what happens in this instance? Thanks guys.

Not really. You basically answered you're own question. Armored moves eat up normal moves or other specials depending on how many hits I can take. If you're talking about ex shoulder charge from kenshi, that is not punishable and it absorbs hits while moves like cages red kick is full combo punishable. Depends on the move. Anything in specific you want to know about a move?

 

[Error]

Armor is to MK9 as prizes are to Oprah, everyone gets some

Except Ermac.

 

[Eddy Wang]

Skarlet had the most useful armor in the game

 

[Alien Substance]

Armor is to MK9 as prizes are to Oprah, everyone gets some

Except Ermac.

Don't forget Cyber Sub-Zero.

In MK9, every character has armor on their X-Ray, including Ermac and CSZ. Some X-Rays have less frames of armor than others.

 

[Matador Fiend]

Don't forget Cyber Sub-Zero.
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In MK9, every character has armor on their X-Ray, including Ermac and CSZ. Some X-Rays have less frames of armor than others.

There are a few. Noob and Mileena do not either, except xray

 

[Fred Marvel]

Armor is to MK9 as prizes are to Oprah, everyone gets some

Except Ermac.

His X ray was godlike tho

 

[Dizzy]

Id like for NRS to start adding armor breaking specials that are not supers/xrays. Like SF4

 

[BRUTALITY]

Id like for NRS to start adding armor breaking specials that are not supera/xrays. Like SF4

but then i would also like to see a couple of characters who truly need armor to be impervious to those armor breaking attacks. Like Sheeva

 

[Dizzy]

but then i would also like to see a couple of characters who truly need armor to be impervious to those armor breaking attacks. Like Sheeva

Then make it invincible instead of armor. So armor breaking would not affect it.

 

[BRUTALITY]

Then make it invincible instead of armor. So armor breaking would not affect it.

of course. its so simple.

 

[Eddy Wang]

Then make it invincible instead of armor. So armor breaking would not affect it.

This

 

[GrandMasterson]

One big disadvantage to armored moves in MK9 was that you still took full damage for whatever attack you absorbed.

Armor is to MK9 as prizes are to Oprah, everyone gets some

Except Ermac.

It was one of the most satisfying things to land an X-ray with Ermac and hearing all of those armored hit sound effects and seeing Ermac light up like a Christmas tree from absorbing so many hits. F3, 3 that Cage you asshole!

 

[THTB]

Then make it invincible instead of armor. So armor breaking would not affect it.

This could have been applied to so many things in MK9 instead. :/

 

[WAR-BLAST]

Thanks everyone for the replies. It's much appreciated.

some characters lack strong footsies because not all characters are footsies characters. those characters have armoured moves to help their neutral game./

Can you elaborate on this a little more? I'm not sure I fully understand what you mean.

The basis of armor is that it allows you to take a hit and keep attacking rather than being placed into hitstun. This often means that you can take the hit and then hit your opponent before he recovers from his own attack. There are various types of armor that have different properties; you might take the full damage of the hit you absorbed, you might take less, and you might take no damage in certain cases.

Depending on what type of armor it is, it might absorb 1 hit, or multiple hits. 1-hit is pretty common, but there are often special abilities or types of armor that absorb more than one hit in certain games.

I see what you mean. I see how it changes the offensive roles by your explanation. But how did NRS balance armor for MK9? For example, what criteria do moves have to meet in order for for armor to last the duration of a move, have them take no damage, etc. (or whatever the case may be)? I take it there are such moves?

Anything in specific you want to know about a move?

Not necessarily, I just wanted to get an idea of the reasoning behind the implementation of this mechanic. Thanks though.