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TakeAChance

TYM White Knight
Either I was an insanely good Jade player, or a lot of yal played some real shitty Jades to think that some of these matchups are 1-9.

Her only real 1-9 was Kenshi I.M.O.
 

STRYKIE

Are ya' ready for MK11 kids?!
There's some obvious trojan horse tweaking in the Kenshi matchup chart lol.

As far as I can see he's apparently the only character allowed to have matchups 9.0 or above....

Mileena having a better chance than Scorpion.....

Kitana having a better chance than Sindel...

The good ole straw-clutching notion that he only loses to Kung Lao and Kabal...

EVEN WITH FREDDY

 
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STRYKIE

Are ya' ready for MK11 kids?!
If I were to inform Eventhubs of the contextual reason behind the Kenshi/Jade matchup, it'd probably spark a bigger uproar of laughter than the Scorpion debacle.

Let's be honest here its only 9-1 Pig's Kenshi over Sub, 8-2 or 7-3 Other Kenshi over Sub.
I'm not Pig and I believe that the only reason Kenshi/Sub wouldn't be be 9/1 is because it might not be as bad as Smoke is for Sub. I don't see why it would be any better or worse regardless of who the Kenshi player is.
 

Jeffreys

Grundy think you handsome!
If I were to inform Eventhubs of the contextual reason behind the Kenshi/Jade matchup, it'd probably spark a bigger uproar of laughter than the Scorpion debacle.


I'm not Pig and I believe that the only reason Kenshi/Sub wouldn't be be 9/1 is because it might not be as bad as Smoke is for Sub.
No way smoke doesn't chip/zone you to death and has no scary armor. Don't get me wrong Smoke Sub is still probably 7-3 but Kenshi Sub is 8-2 or 9-1.
 

STRYKIE

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No way smoke doesn't chip/zone you to death and has no scary armor. Don't get me wrong Smoke Sub is still probably 7-3 but Kenshi Sub is 8-2 or 9-1.
Kenshi doesn't full combo punish ice clone anywhere on the screen.

They're both horrible for different reasons, I suppose it depends on what you value more.
 

Jeffreys

Grundy think you handsome!
Kenshi doesn't full combo punish ice clone anywhere on the screen.

They're both horrible for different reasons, I suppose it depends on what you value more.
Why would Kenshi have to worry about Ice clone at all? its not like he has to move forward, no matter the life lead if you can't finish off kenshi and he can still zone then you don't have the advantage. The only time he has to worry about ice clone is in the corner, and everyone has to respect sub zero in the corner.
 

SHAOLIN

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If I were to inform Eventhubs of the contextual reason behind the Kenshi/Jade matchup, it'd probably spark a bigger uproar of laughter than the Scorpion debacle.


I'm not Pig and I believe that the only reason Kenshi/Sub wouldn't be be 9/1 is because it might not be as bad as Smoke is for Sub. I don't see why it would be any better or worse regardless of who the Kenshi player is.
My statement was sorta of a joke....let me explain Pig's Kenshi back in day was the only one at that time that was doing some real damage in majors(IMO) and he knew matchups pretty well, so whenever I talk about Kenshi and his matchups I would mention that as a little joke....that's all
 
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xKhaoTik

The Ignore Button Is Free
Why would Kenshi have to worry about Ice clone at all? its not like he has to move forward, no matter the life lead if you can't finish off kenshi and he can still zone then you don't have the advantage. The only time he has to worry about ice clone is in the corner, and everyone has to respect sub zero in the corner.

Kitana, Jade, Raiden. Shall I go on?
 

STRYKIE

Are ya' ready for MK11 kids?!
The only time he has to worry about ice clone is in the corner, and everyone has to respect sub zero in the corner.
That's the thing, Smoke doesn't even have to care about Sub's corner game either. Even when Sub has the lifelead, you could be killed just for pressing a button. That two things are worst matchup contendership material IMO.

I don't get why we're arguing about this though considering I was already reinforcing how bad the Kenshi matchup was for Sub anyway lol. And I may even have an idea that would make the matchup worse but I haven't had a chance to demonstrate.

My statement was sorta of a joke....let me explain:pig's Kenshi back in day was the only one at that time that was doing some real damage in majors(IMO) and he knew matchups pretty well, so whenever I talk about Kenshi and his matchups I would mention that as a little joke....that's all
Fair enough, but I don't think it matters either way, it is still one of the most well-documented bad matchups in MK9.
 

STRYKIE

Are ya' ready for MK11 kids?!
RIP Kitana, Johnny Cage, Liu Kang, Baraka, Kano, Sindel, Sub-Zero, Mileena, Rain, Jade

Oh man, Kenshi broke the game and the corner. I still like him as a character : )
Typical assumptions of a Kenshi activist. I admire your resilience.
 

RTM2004

Revenant Jade
RIP Liu Kang, Sindel
Kenshi has a Reflect, he can sit there full screen turtle all day and those two aren't getting in nor getting any damage on him at all like Johnny Cage and Kitana.

In the corner, they die. Both have to deal with his F3, B2, truckload of armor. Kenshi kills their wake ups. Neither of those two are threatening to him.

Kenshi is #2 in the game for a reason. #1 obviously Kabal only bad match since he can abuse NDC Kenshi's large hitbox, use flash parry, can't reflect the Ground Saw.

pig of the hut showed the community how truly broken Kenshi was. He loses to no character except Kabal, results have showed.

In that sense, pocket Kenshi players get eaten alive by Kitana players. There was only 1 Kenshi main and will stand the test of time, pig of the hut.
 

NickDaGreek1983

Oh, my days !
Kenshi has a Reflect, he can sit there full screen turtle all day and those two aren't getting in nor getting any damage on him at all like Johnny Cage and Kitana.

In the corner, they die. Both have to deal with his F3, B2, truckload of armor. Kenshi kills their wake ups. Neither of those two are threatening to him.
Kang has his tricks in comparison to cage. When Kenshi has Cage in his face he only has to worry about f3/d3/ex nut punch (talk about broken!) but with Kang it's a lot tougher. From full screen Cage has nothing aside from a red shadow kick (on read though) but Kang has stuff to do. Even though, it's not better than 7-3 in Kenshi's favor . I have NO idea about Sindel to be honest. Kenshi's reflect sends sindels air projectiles diagonally up I guess? Maybe mix high/low fireballs like Kang in oredr to put Kenshi in a "reflect only mode" ? Maybe somewhere in between those reflects there is a jip or at least a deep jump kick... I don't know.
 

Flagg

Noob
Kenshi has a Reflect, he can sit there full screen turtle all day and those two aren't getting in nor getting any damage on him at all like Johnny Cage and Kitana.

In the corner, they die. Both have to deal with his F3, B2, truckload of armor. Kenshi kills their wake ups. Neither of those two are threatening to him.

Kenshi is #2 in the game for a reason. #1 obviously Kabal only bad match since he can abuse NDC Kenshi's large hitbox, use flash parry, can't reflect the Ground Saw.

pig of the hut showed the community how truly broken Kenshi was. He loses to no character except Kabal, results have showed.

In that sense, pocket Kenshi players get eaten alive by Kitana players. There was only 1 Kenshi main and will stand the test of time, pig of the hut.
What? Kung Lao, Freddy and even Noob Saibot give Kenshi trouble.

Kenshi was good, and derp and brain dead and top 5 but he wasnt the second best in the game imo.