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WakeUp DP

GT MK OshTekk.
Noob and Sindel weren't the best, but you can't argue that Freddy, Kenshi and Kabal didn't dominate the majority of the cast with a keep-away game. Kabal and Kitana are hybrids; but Kenshi and Freddy are zoners to the core. Even Kabal was considered most powerful on the bigger stages.

It's not like rushdown Freddy was causing the damage in MK9.
You named 3 chars that for obvious reasons were top tier.

What was doing major dAmage was cyrax 100% resets, JCs f3 chip damage, sonnya's bs. Kitanas longgg range on her normals and everything safe for 50% mid screen combos etc.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
Honestly, nobody should overreact or go nuts over "nerfs, buffs etc" first week however, if someone is OP or broken that should be fixed if it's an issue(in otherwords an obvious issue then).

Of course in a perfect, dreamy world I'd love an MK game with no resets, infinites or OTG's but that's a pipe dream I'm sure. One thing I hope they do in MK 10, give a buff to a weaker character not a reset. Just my opinion.
 

Dizzy

False Information Police Officer
Elder God
NetherRealm Studios
I wasn't in the early days of MK prepatch.

Can someone explain to me what the Kano upball nerf was?

I'm confused, as it still seems like a great move that should definitely be unsafe since it is technically a dp.

Did they nerf the startup? The damage?
I dont blame you for being confused because people spread Kano propaganda around here for some reason.

Vanilla Kano: upball was like -60 (same block animation as straight ball)

Kano buff patch: upball became -7 block

Kano nerf patch: upball became -14 on block

Everyone loves to omit the part about vanilla Kano being utterly horrible
 

STRYKIE

Are ya' ready for MK11 kids?!
I wasn't in the early days of MK prepatch.

Can someone explain to me what the Kano upball nerf was?

I'm confused, as it still seems like a great move that should definitely be unsafe since it is technically a dp.

Did they nerf the startup? The damage?
Kano was basically the MK9 equivalent to IGAU Scorpion, an already mediocre character that nobody knew how to fight, and nerfed upon request.

Some even say he's now the worst in the game, but that seemed more like some weird red herring to make NRS feel bad and patch the game. Definitely bottom 6 though.
 

STRYKIE

Are ya' ready for MK11 kids?!
Vanilla Kano: upball was like -60 (same block animation as straight ball)
I know it was unsafe in vanilla but I don't remember it doing the generic ball roll on block animation, are you absolutely sure? (I would check myself but I don't have my original copy anymore and Komplete Edition isn't unpatchable)
 

Rabbit

thugs bunny
The deathstroke nerfs on the other hand were a result of casuals bitching, early streams and youtube impression videos were full of people complaining about Deathstroke "Spamming".
Actually there was quite a bit of well known tournament players complaining about Deathstroke on here as well.



Concerning the OP,
It should be the Top Players of Injustice/MK9 that need to not cry during the first month. People that just play online aren't going to care about the game as a whole and will cry about anything their characters has a hard time with.
 
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Rathalos

Play Monster Hunter!
I know it was unsafe in vanilla but I don't remember it doing the generic ball roll on block animation, are you absolutely sure? (I would check myself but I don't have my original copy anymore and Komplete Edition isn't unpatchable)

Looks like it was.

At 9 minutes in.

I coulda swore it wasn't, but I didn't exactly play a lot of Kano ever.
 

Dizzy

False Information Police Officer
Elder God
NetherRealm Studios
I know it was unsafe in vanilla but I don't remember it doing the generic ball roll on block animation, are you absolutely sure? (I would check myself but I don't have my original copy anymore and Komplete Edition isn't unpatchable)
Ya. He didnt have his low starter either among other things
 
Even if we make this promise it's not going to stop the flavor of the month people to come make a new account and post on TYM. Lol.
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
Kano was basically the MK9 equivalent to IGAU Scorpion, an already mediocre character that nobody knew how to fight, and nerfed upon request.
Pre-patch Scorpion was mediocre? You are a fool.

This thread should have been titled "We should make a promise to each other not to cry about zoning".

Zoning is the first thing that scrubs in this community lose their minds about.
 

STRYKIE

Are ya' ready for MK11 kids?!
Pre-patch Scorpion was mediocre? You are a fool.

This thread should have been titled "We should make a promise to each other not to cry about zoning".

Zoning is the first thing that scrubs in this community lose their minds about.
In regards to what the Scorpion scare was actually about, yes. Pre-patch flipkick is debatable, but the thing about breaking the blocking mechanics because he's an MK character... LOL.


Ya. He didnt have his low starter either among other things
I know about the other stuff, I just wasn't sure about the blockstun animation on the upball.



Looks like it was.

At 9 minutes in.

I coulda swore it wasn't, but I didn't exactly play a lot of Kano ever.
Too close/fast to really distinguish it IMO. I'm sure I'll get bored sometime between now and MK10 and find a way to check.

If there's anything close to vanilla Kung Lao in MK10, everyone has the right to scream for nerfs. Not all nerfs and buffs are necessary, but some are imo. I just hope NRS does a better job at differentiating the two this time around.... necessary and unnecessary
In all fairness, there was plenty of misinformation about pre-patch Kung Lao. Which is mostly why he's remained a top 6 character beyond the patches.

I'm pretty sure that's what Ketchup was referring to, but I could be wrong.
 
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FrozenG3oX

<3 gimmicks
I, ColdBoreMK23, take you, Mortal Kombat 10, as my friend and love, in front of me and apart from me, in buffs and in nerfs, in hype and rage ,asking that you have no more bullshit 100% resets, loving the vanilla version of what I know of you, trusting the patches what I do not yet know, in all the ways that life may find us.

'Til babalities do us part


Ed Boon: Do you take this game to be your awfully inbalanced wife?

ColdBoreMK23: I Do

Ed Boon: You may combo the bride
this is like..the best post ever
 

bettyswallaux

XBOXLive: BettySwallaux
I honestly think that NRS will give a better fan service this time, they (should) have learned a lot now from MK9 and IGAU being their first truly tournament viable games. They havnt done to bad all in all with IGAU, I know they rushed the patches but they didnt do a bad job with them (cept mmh buff dafuq?). I am optimistic that they'll do the best job of patching they've done to date.