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True , I like Barry Allen better anyway
True , I like Barry Allen better anyway
Doomsday breathed fire on an old version of MMH. New MMH's relationship to fire is very different even from the psychological weakness the old version had. Like I said, it's basically PTSD (Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder), meaning it's sort of like a phobia. But he's been in several scenarios where he's had to deal with heat/fire/etc. and had no problems recently. For example, when he was flying at high speed back into earth's atmosphere and there was heat/fire all around him due to the friction of re-entry and he just ignored it. The times it has affected him, it's sort of stunned him and then he's been fine moments later.
Nah Wally west is where is its at man.True , I like Barry Allen better anyway
Yeah but Doomsday is still a plot induced piece of shit character. I feel like he could still use fire against MMH. and MMH weakness to fire Pre-52 wasn't a physical thing it was only a mental thing, because if he overcame his fear of it, he would turn into the Burning.Doomsday breathed fire on an old version of MMH. New MMH's relationship to fire is very different even from the psychological weakness the old version had. Like I said, it's basically PTSD (Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder), meaning it's sort of like a phobia. But he's been in several scenarios where he's had to deal with heat/fire/etc. and had no problems recently. For example, when he was flying at high speed back into earth's atmosphere and there was heat/fire all around him due to the friction of re-entry and he just ignored it. The times it has affected him, it's sort of stunned him and then he's been fine moments later.
As for psychic stuff, Superman's mental defenses are not what they used to be, while MMH's telepathy is way more powerful than ever. He's gone up against a bunch of people with mental defenses that they thought would protect them and he's just laughed at them. He's mind-raped so many uber-powerful entities that previous MMH couldn't have (Despero, for example, who he beat in a single page).
Also, how would freeze breath and heat vision beat phasing? MMH phases through energy attacks all the time, and has even done it against Superman.
As for strength, it's pretty up in the air. Superman is obviously stronger than he used to be, but we have yet to see an upper limit to new MMH's strength. He has yet to be physically beaten by anyone, or failed to lift anything. He did face Apollo--a guy that in-universe sources put on par with Superman. Apollo got pissed and tried to punch MMH's teammate. MMH stepped in the way and let Apollo hit him square in the face, and it knocked APOLLO on his ass while MMH just stood there.
Oh and there's this, which is from the old universe, where MMH wasn't as powerful as he is now:
Deathstroke rapes Batman all the time lol
Any Speedster connected to the speed force can do the infinite mass punch. Hell even Superman did it.Just to correct some things, superboy prime IS superman we all know (Kal-El) just from Earth-prime so that can be used for superman depending on which we are using and which flash is being used? If it's wally he should be on top he can steal speed and has access to the infinite mass punch.
Don't say superman won't kill
Superman can only do it in space while speedsters connected to the speed force can do it anywhere
So can Superman. He can most as fast as the Flash to a degree and can reach lightspeed. Only reason why he does not do it is because of the effect his speed has on the world.
Superman has never broke light speed in earth's atmosphere you can't assume he can because he can do it in space and you can't really say it's because of damaging his surroundings when flash can, and no he can't move as fast as the flash lol maybe in outer space
I do know my stuff, i'm not much of a flash fan but i gotta give credit when it's due also superboy prime is afraid of speedsters
That's exactly why Superman does not move that fast on Earth. That's exactly why Speedsters can move that fast on earth because the Speedfroce allows them to move that fast without affecting the environment around them.
Fuck Death Battle, Goku would destroy Superman. That bullshit was nothing but politics. I was very very dismayed after watching that abomination.
The feels, man...
Actually no. I actually read comics, and Superman would lose to the Flash. Flash is faster, has the capability to punch harder, steal his kinetic energy, and can phase though his attack by moving his molecules (although Superman can over come it). Same with Superboy -Prime who is terrified of Speedsters, since the Flash trapped him in the Speed Force. Zoom is a different story. He exists entirely on a different timeline that everyone else. Neither Superman nor Superboy-Prime is touching him. It took Wally absoring the speed force from Jay, Bart and Jessie in order to get almost as fast as Zoom. What hope does Superman have? Especially when Zoom went against the whole Justice League and toyed with him before leaving.
No flash can move FTL while superman on earth can't and it states that superman is running at 2000 miles a a second, that isn't FTLThat's exactly why Superman does not move that fast on Earth. That's exactly why Speedsters can move that fast on earth because the Speedfroce allows them to move that fast without affecting the environment around them.
So that isn't Superman keeping up with the Flash or Nah?