popping off and show boating in this community

[ReD WolF]

Competition is fueled by shit talking. Why would anyone want this to stop?

 

[coolwhip]

Considering all we have is pop offs and shit talk, +1 for "there needs to be more professionalism"
Shit talk and popoffs may get a lot of attention, but they are short-lived compared to consistent professionalism.
Just forget I said anything because there is only a handful of you that are capable of it.

Actually, the problem is people mistake pop-offs for lack of professionalism. Pop off is simply a way to display emotions, which, as long as you don't cross any lines or offend, is perfectly fine and there's nothing unprofessional about it.

 

[coolwhip]

Having been around for both, the hype for the first year has been on another level entirely for IGAU. Most of MK9's most talked-about lifetime moments came in this second-year period we're entering now. It really started taking off with MLG Columbus, which was near the end of March 2012, and hit fever pitch with the period between MLG Anaheim and EVO. But the pre-March IGAU hype and number of important storylines from Day 1 has far exceeded MK9.

It's about the same. Injustice had a very quiet first 6 months, hype wise (though there were a few moments here and there). The patch, and subsequently, NEC is when everything changed. MK wasn't too dissimilar. NEC was also a turning point, with Detroit's awesome performances and rivalry with CD Jr. Also, the hype for MK9 was insane at Final Round 2012. The build-up for that team battle was beyond insane. Then you had the PL vs. NY feud. God I miss MK rivalries...

 

[CrimsonShadow]

It's about the same. Injustice had a very quiet first 6 months, hype wise (though there were a few moments here and there). The patch, and subsequently, NEC is when everything changed. MK wasn't too dissimilar. NEC was also a turning point, with Detroit's awesome performances and rivalry with CD Jr. Also, the hype for MK9 was insane at Final Round 2012. The build-up for that team battle was beyond insane. Then you had the PL vs. NY feud. God I miss MK rivalries...

I mostly disagree with this -- there was a lot of hype (and some of the game's most memorable moments to date) before the Oct. patch. The gameplay is more balanced now, but the the hype has been here since Day 1.

Slips and Wound at UFGT (and the accompanying Deathstroke and Sinestro sagas) , the Entire CEO tournament (which is still one of the most exciting tournaments to date), the KDZ vs. Rico vs. Chris G triangle, the skill gap, the pre-TFC win announcement, KDZ vs. PL drama, the E/W buildup to NEC, the WNF Aris situation and all of the hype with Tyrant running up a streak with Grundy, the NRS v. Capcom callouts, the great Scorpion Scare, Testers Among Us, Forever King declaring he'd win IGAU+MK, etc. all that stuff was prepatch.

Some of the most memorable moments from NLBC, WNF, and the Break in general also occurred prepatch as well.

Although the game is much better now, it was anything but quiet before the patch.

 

[Awkward Sloth]

I think popping off is good but the community also needs some calm people.
I like to think of myself as the Paula Abdul of the community when there's a lot of Simon Cowell's.

I love the Paula analogy.
It makes sense, you were all crazy and "Zatanana bottom 2 " near the beginning of the seasons and then you came to your senses and are less crazy like Paula became. <3

 

[Chongo]

Fake hype and popping off to pop off are bad.

 

[Mr. Mileena]

I love the Paula analogy.
It makes sense, you were all crazy and "Zatanana bottom 2 " near the beginning of the seasons and then you came to your senses and are less crazy like Paula became. <3

I'm like Paula because I am bipolar when it comes to fighting games lol Zatanna is bottom 2, zatanna has 1 bad MU, I quit injustice in Feb, I want to play MK9 now, etc. But I love everyone and I just want to motivate people and clap for them really hard and weird like Paula does.

 

[coolwhip]

I mostly disagree with this -- there was a lot of hype (and some of the game's most memorable moments to date) before the Oct. patch. The gameplay is more balanced now, but the the hype has been here since Day 1.

Slips and Wound at UFGT (and the accompanying Deathstroke and Sinestro sagas) , the Entire CEO tournament (which is still one of the most exciting tournaments to date), the KDZ vs. Rico vs. Chris G triangle, the skill gap, the pre-TFC win announcement, KDZ vs. PL drama, the E/W buildup to NEC, the WNF Aris situation and all of the hype with Tyrant running up a streak with Grundy, the NRS v. Capcom callouts, the great Scorpion Scare, Testers Among Us, Forever King declaring he'd win IGAU+MK, etc. all that stuff was prepatch.

Some of the most memorable moments from NLBC, WNF, and the Break in general also occurred prepatch as well.

Although the game is much better now, it was anything but quiet before the patch.

The difference is though, that most were actually down on the game. It's hard to explain, but there was generally a feeling of being underwhelmed -- both by the state of the game and the state of the community. Most seemed to be feeling that way. Yes, hype gameplay moments are always going to be there no matter what, but in terms of actual rivalries to be invested in, storylines, etc... it just wasn't happening. Thankfully, things have picked up.

 

[Chakk dizzle]

Willing to bet the ones that are against popoffs were told by their parents that winning doesn't matter.

 

[MKB]

Shit-talking is just immature and childish IMHO. I trend more to the side of the Starcraft folks as gaming is no different than any other activity in the sense of professionalism. Although I will say this...

If you EVER talk shit on me for any reason, and I end up beating you in a set, be prepared to get your ass ripped apart. I only dish it out if you give it to me first.

 

[SAREDODEVIL]

in the golden age of mk9, had much of this

 

[Scoot Magee]

I look at Call Of Duty as the scrubbiest FPS around. I see how the COD players act and realize why they are attracted to that game. I don't think we need to rely on gimmicks to grow our community. Also drama/rivalries will come naturally as well.

Btw I'm not trying to disrespect COD players. I have respect for anyone who puts time into a game and wins in it. I just don't like the game and from what I've seen of some players they seems retarded lol.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

Yes, hype gameplay moments are always going to be there no matter what, but in terms of actual rivalries to be invested in, storylines, etc... it just wasn't happening. Thankfully, things have picked up.

The thing between KDZ Chris G and Rico wasn't just a moment; it was storyline that lasted for months with each of them constantly getting the best of each other at the following event. When they showed up you were never sure who would win. The story went far and wide, and the plot included everything from regionals to NLBC and the Break showing up and invading each others' territory to prove supremacy. Chris G was constantly pulling out unbelievable wins with a character that was never expected to win anything. KDZ's hype was built for months, and exploded with the KDZ vs. PL drama at CEO followed by his victory at EVO and then PL turning the tables at VxG. The rivalry between KDZ and PL was months in the making.

Also the Deathstroke saga and storyline was months long, starting with Aris' domination of WNF, the general community controversy, the nerf that supposedly killed the character, and then Slips rising from the ashes to place top at UFGT.

The EC v. WC drama that led into NEC was built early from the remnants of EGP and the fact that the EC trio of doom was dominating a good deal of major events.

Our local tournament scene has been amazing, and we didn't have anything like it in MK9.

The reason for this is that the community was already in place from Day 1. I liken MK9 at the start more to something like Killer Instinct, where some big-name players are playing it and there are exciting moments, but the community for it is still coming together and taking shape. IGAU had the benefit of a running start from a community that was in place and ready to follow the game from Day 1. Also there were experienced scenes of people that ready to train each other and level up from Day 1. We were already familiar with much of what was going on from the day the game dropped.

 

[Eldriken]

I look at Call Of Duty as the scrubbiest FPS around. I see how the COD players act and realize why they are attracted to that game. I don't think we need to rely on gimmicks to grow our community. Also drama/rivalries will come naturally as well.

Btw I'm not trying to disrespect COD players. I have respect for anyone who puts time into a game and wins in it. I just don't like the game and from what I've seen of some players they seems retarded lol.

I think there's a massive difference between CoD popoffs and FGC popoffs.

Most elitist CoD popoffs consist of calling the other person a slew of derogatory names and trying to belittle them as much as possible. I don't really ever see much, if any, of these kinds of popoffs within the FGC. Not to say it's impossible, however. I'm sure it's happened before, I just haven't seen it.

 

[ETC AdmiralAugustus]

Settlers of Catan have the best pop offs

 

[coolwhip]

The thing between KDZ Chris G and Rico wasn't just a moment; it was storyline that lasted for months with each of them constantly getting the best of each other at the following event.

I'll be blunt: Nobody (or very few) really cared about this enough to make it on par with MK rivalries. It was cool, I guess, but when comparing it to MK rivalries, it pales by comparison.

There's a reason why, upon its comeback, all KTP talked about was the lack of hype, and rightfully so.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

I'll be blunt: Nobody (or very few) really cared about this enough to make it on par with MK rivalries. It was cool, I guess, but when comparing it to MK rivalries, it pales by comparison.

There's a reason why, upon its comeback, all KTP talked about was the lack of hype, and rightfully so.

I think that's personal and depends on who you talk to. Of course a GGA-centered view would probably reflect the fact that their scene took a while to catch up to its current levels of passion for the game. But that wasn't the case on either the EC or WC, and those scenes had 5000-7000 viewers going nuts each week following the drama.

The EC hype was cemented from the early days of Project Injustice and NLBC, with CD Jr. starting to look strong early despite being figured out and repeatedly beaten by Chris G each week. Everyone also wanted to know whether the Break or NLBC was stronger, and the weeks where guys finally crossed over and went head to head were awesome. Both Chris G and KDZ were consistently amazing to watch and very rarely delivered a boring match. Likewise with Rico once he started building up steam. People also started following Grr from his first tournament.

SoCal's excitement for the game started about 2 days after the game came out when Tyrant fought Justin Wong, and was only strengthened when Tyrant rose yet a second time to do something no one's matched since with Grundy. It was exciting to see whether someone would finally decipher the keys to beat Aris or whether Tyrant could fend off Godspeed and Theo without resorting to his alt. Also there was Chef and his constant character roulette excitement, which started pretty early on as well. And the Norcal/Vegas/Socal invasion, etc. To say 'no one cared' is pretty off base imo.

 

[KingHippo]

I think Coolwhip has a decent point here. One of the key points of hyping up these tournaments was knowing we were going to get the most passionate players to fight and the end result will have big consequences for a little while to come. The community will split in support of whoever and when it's over and done with we will have a clear cut winner.

The problem: This didn't exist. KDZ and Rico and Chris G were probably not even top ten as far as passion for the game went and they won everything every week. We had absolutely nothing to look forward too because the game was so laughably automatized that no one could muster up an ounce of shits to give as far as beating them. We had players constantly talking about how bad the game was and how we should all go back to MK, and worst of all the game was BOO'D at the Evo Grand Finals.

We had absolute poison on the forums as Dave's DS drama was at an all time high, the unbearable Scorpion scare and all of the insane overreaction threads that came out at the time. I think we underestimate just how bad a reset was needed.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

KDZ and Rico and Chris G were probably not even top ten as far as passion for the game went and they won everything every week.

I know that at the very least, KDZ would heavily dispute this. Who was more passionate about Injustice than KDZ during that period of time? He was living and bleeding the game.

As far as Rico, he's a friend, and I was talking to him a lot during the period of time after he picked the game up -- he was legitimately going at it hard. SF was on the back burner for him at this time and he legitimately loved Black Adam as a character. He was instrumental in bringing others like Grr to the scene and he was training heavily. He also did care about the rivalry with KDZ and was talking about it all the time.

It wasn't until later that he went back to focusing on sharpening his SF skills and eventually picked up KI.

 

[shaowebb]

I have had all of one pop off in my life. Tatsunoko vs Capcom was just about to hit and a convention I was at had an early copy. We were playing till we lost and I had been up for 3 sets. We were all just trying whoever because the game had so many original new cast and then this dude shows up dead serious and immediately goes Chun/Morrigan. I knew this guy was serious to choose such overplayed cast and to not even browse.

I played Megaman Volnut/Tekkaman and we went at it. He had me down to near dead on both and the dude legit knew his shit (called it.)

Then...I began to run it back with Megaman. I switched weapon and he didn't know this matchup. I was doing magic series shit and just making up extensions and it was WORKING. I took out Chun by just staying on her and then got his Morrigan down to half and got bopped. SHIT. Tekkaman is slow as balls and I had to make it count. We play footsies and its back and forth forever. finally he gets meter and says fuckit all. i'm on Magic pixel and he is tired of running into shit he doesn't know about yet. Tekkaman hits too hard to risk his last health so he goes for Morrigan super... In that moment I knew what to do. Morrigan's missiles are SLOW on startup but home...if I could kill him before they hit I'd WIN because he couldn't blcok while doing it. I didn't know my specials though so I just guessed that something I saw earlier was a Shoryu motion and WAS RIGHT! I threw the lance directly above Morrigan and it blasted down death above her head and managed to KO her moments before all the missiles hit me and WON!

In this moment the room exploded and so did I. His salt was high and it showed. I flew out of my seat and just sort of hit my knees like a soccer player celebrating a goal as the room blew up and cheered. Just sort of a blur of folks all over me then. After that I just walked away. I wasn't gonna top that. Let the room have at it. I was going out on top. After that I started getting serious about trying to learn fighting games.

And thats how I eventually made my way here

 

[MagnetoHalfway]

Someone should ask Oxygen how he feels about pop offs

Yo when he refused to shake that one dudes hand after the pop off I literally almost DIED laughing smfh lol

 

[Shadow985]

Settlers of Catan have the best pop offs

"You rolled a 12? GIMME THAT 3 MUH FUCKIN COAL!!!"
That game is awesome lol.

 

[sinosleep]

Considering all we have is pop offs and shit talk, +1 for "there needs to be more professionalism"
Shit talk and popoffs may get a lot of attention, but they are short-lived compared to consistent professionalism.
Just forget I said anything because there is only a handful of you that are capable of it.

Tell that all of the professional athletes who spend their time talking shit. Richard Sherman just won a superbowl and has thus far spent the entire off season getting into twitter beefs with other active (and even some retired) football players. Floyd Mayweather, currently the biggest draw in boxing makes a living out of talking shit. There's nothing inherently unprofessional or wrong with shit talking when it comes to a competitive environment and this ridiculous notion that somehow it is must be coming from people that don't regularly watch professional sports.

 

[RM Jonnitti]

popping off is fun and all but nothing should ever become seriously personal. theres also a lot of bullshit drama in this community that is 100% unnecessary and blown out of proportion for no reason