Sonic Fox plays the character the best out of anyone I've seen. Jupiter also forced Astronaut to switch to Catwoman. Every other Batgirl player says it's one of her 3 worst MU's. He shuts down everything she does. I'd rather use Zatanna vs MMH and he has that 7-3 in MMH favor. What else must be said or done to prove that it is in his favor? What are the talking points for it being 5-5?
Can we not be dramatic? It's part of why I don't post my opinions because of that. It's obvious who I'm talking about since my whole post was directed at your comment. Apparently something's up because it worked for me before when I tried it in matches, but maybe it's for the reasons that you stated that it punished. Regardless, being able to avoid his plus frames is important and I guess I'm mistaken, which happens.
am sorry and not to be sarcastic but if you were obviously referring to my comment you could have just quoted me or tagged me in the post, but when you start off a sentences like "why are we talking about such and such" it almost comes across in a passive aggressive facebook status when you do it in that fashion. also i tested WE against push, if for any reason they can overhead teleport to mess with the timing, you're going to have to react to try and blow it up before they take off since WE recovery is long and WE3 won't avoid it (it even cross me up sometimes when doing WE 2 midscreen, you could block but just the other direction) what i think would do it more justice is find a hard knockdown that gives enough advantage to set up a WE option select for both, late WE beats push and grab clean, but since its late if you don't cancel into 1,2 or 3 the recover gets destroyed by overhead teleport, with a set up you should be able to beat push and react fast enough to a teleport where WE2 will catch MMh before he goes under the ground.
I don't wanna keep arguing with you about petty stuff that doesn't matter. Taking offense to the fact that jump back 3 and MB back 3 is a universal cast option to beat mace charge and not a Martian specific one is the truth. It's a legit question, why are we talking about universal cast options when discussing match ups as though only Martian Manhunter can do it? It's something everyone else can do too.
in terms of universal cast options, coming from a flash player that his MB B3 whiffs most of the time when trying to do it sucks, so maybe thats why i mentioned it. just the fact that martian has trait j3 with an air dash makes it way easier to do it and convert into 40%+ characters like flash don't convert of air to air situations that low to the ground for super good damage. most flash gets off jump back 1 is 30% meterless and if i am one with the force i can confirm into trait for 50% meterless. martian with trait + MB B3? hell yeah i would give him an edge above the cast in terms of this MU, nuff said that thing has ridiculous range. if everyone had the same B3 and jump 3's then i would agree with you.
honestly that matchup feels relatively even because staff pound has really good recovery so in most situations tp wont punish and flying grayson makes tps whiff, i haven't grinded it enough vs murk yet but i know some things.
Now this is a #1 character in injustice. Well done.
I kinda disagree with the HG MU being 7-3. I think it's more of a tough 6-4. Then again the only good MMH I have played a long set with was Scar so maybe playing you would change my mind. Either way great MU chart!
We can play, what system are you on?
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I can somewhat see the MU being 7-3. The biggest annoyance for me is that MMH does a very good of stuffing almost all of her wakeups. Trait 3 and jump back 3 completely negate wakeup MC and push is good as well. I just think this MU requires A LOT of patience from my end as a HG main lol. it also sucks I really can't fly around the screen unless if I'm hitting a 50-70% in the corner
but then again getting him to the corner is a pain -.-
Thanks, I changed some numbers around. I have been back and forth on the shazam MU, debating on whether or not it's 5-5 or 6-4. It really isn't that bad for shazam. His oki works just fine on MMH and teleporting on him is suicide. The only time shazam struggles is the zoning, but when he's in it could be trouble.
Yeah MMH's mobility is the reason the MU is so difficult. Her inability to corner him and use any of her normal viable tools is why i think it is 7-3. Lots of details but it would be paragraphs lol. So let's just play and we will see how it goesI can somewhat see the MU being 7-3. The biggest annoyance for me is that MMH does a very good of stuffing almost all of her wakeups. Trait 3 and jump back 3 completely negate wakeup MC and push is good as well. I just think this MU requires A LOT of patience from my end as a HG main lol. it also sucks I really can't fly around the screen unless if I'm hitting a 50-70% in the corner
What makes teleporting on him suicide? I thought all he got from blocking it was a 50/50?
Not like scar is a slouch or anything, though he is more of a flash player.
Oh for sure he has a really good MMH it was good EXP for sure.
Do you remember all those times that Pig of the Hut beat 16 Bit in an 8:2 match up?
BG vs MMH isn't even as bad lol.
The Martian Manhunter players are not even that good and they were winning.
Jupiter downloads people pretty fucking fast and knows his shit. I mean, come on.
