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a Tier list because its been a while

no... its a different experience when u actually fight a match... and u know what to do.. than just pressume.
You act like I have never played a frost. Do you play GL no I listed reasonable things that make it 5-5 and you say I'm theory fighting but that's exactly what you did. I don't play Martian but I know how to fight him and know you can interrupt any string into blue orb smh
 

Vak Phoenix

Warrior
You act like I have never played a frost. Do you play GL no I listed reasonable things that make it 5-5 and you say I'm theory fighting but that's exactly what you did. I don't play Martian but I know how to fight him and know you can interrupt any string into blue orb smh
 

TheBoyBlunder

They love my Grayson
Nightwing is far from low tier and Ares isn't even that bad. He has a lot of nasty shit, just really bad match ups.
 

RM Truth

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u said he fought a kf... and just because he fought kf... with harley... he knows how can frost deal with gl? like i have fought against bg... but i have no idea who wins bg martian match.
You're just assuming he plays Harley because of his tag? You were just saying several posts earlier that said KF beats GL because she blows up turbine and can parry B13 yet you're not theory fighting? Even though there's no reason why GL should be throwing out turbine like that, and a parry attempt can get blown up by just not doing the 3 in B13?
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
Nightwing is far from low tier and Ares isn't even that bad. He has a lot of nasty shit, just really bad match ups.
Thats kinda what determines tier placement in the long run.

If they went off of potential character dirt, Bane would've been top 5 in May. :p
 

Pan1cMode

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Thats kinda what determines tier placement in the long run.

If they went off of potential character dirt, Bane would've been top 5 in May. :p
Naw, this community doesn't base tiers off MU numbers or we wouldn't see BG in top 5 and Raven out of top 10.
 

Vak Phoenix

Warrior
You're just assuming he plays Harley because of his tag? You were just saying several posts earlier that said KF beats GL because she blows up turbine and can parry B13 yet you're not theory fighting? Even though there's no reason why GL should be throwing out turbine like that, and a parry attempt can get blown up by just not doing the 3 in B13?
yeah... i am cause of his name tag... i am not coming off like OH NO THIS IS THIS THIS IS THAT. no.. its just my personal experience... what ive dealt with. u see that people learn your stuff... change it up. besides he asked how frost players felt about gl vs frost... thats what i said...
How is what you just posted even remotely related to my post at all?
he can play gl.. good for him... the more characters the better i guess..? anyways.. he said it himself... that maybe he hasnt played really good frosts... enough of this!

imo kf gl. 6-4, 5.5-4.5, you may agree or disagree... just like hawkgirl being a higher tier than cw in the 1st post...
 

RM Truth

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Naw, this community doesn't base tiers off MU numbers or we wouldn't see BG in top 5 and Raven out of top 10.
I actually think that Batgirl might have more winning MUs then what is on the current tier list. Also there aren't as many lopsided MUs in this game that people think imo, so the placements aren't that too far off from each other. Top 5 is fine where Batgirl is.
 

RM Truth

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yeah... i am cause of his name tag... i am not coming off like OH NO THIS IS THIS THIS IS THAT. no.. its just my personal experience... what ive dealt with. u see that people learn your stuff... change it up. besides he asked how frost players felt about gl vs frost... thats what i said...

he can play gl.. good for him... the more characters the better i guess..? anyways.. he said it himself... that maybe he hasnt played really good frosts... enough of this!

imo kf gl. 6-4, 5.5-4.5, you may agree or disagree... just like hawkgirl being a higher tier than cw in the 1st post...
He's a GL main. My issue was that he offered a legitamate counter opinion and you basically replied with you don't know what you're talking about, you don't play KF. Maybe this thread wasn't the right place for him to do that, but you sounded hella condescending to me.
 

Fred Marvel

It's actually Freddy Marvel
If anyone hasn't noticed, the reason this list is divided up into way too many tiers is to conceal the Myles-Wright levels of GL downplaying.

He can't combine the B+ tier with the top tier, or he'll have to admit GL is on the same level as characters like Batman and Aquaman. Hell, there's even an extra obviously-uneccesary A-tier with only one character in-between to pad it out further.

He can't combine the B+ tier with the B tier, or the downplaying would become too painfully obvious as GL would be in the same tier as Lex Luthor.
lmaooooooooo this was good
also do you honestly think GL is as good as Batman and/or Aquaman? like seriously?
 

Pan1cMode

AUS FGC represent!
I actually think that Batgirl might have more winning MUs then what is on the current tier list. Also there aren't as many lopsided MUs in this game that people think imo, so the placements aren't that too far off from each other. Top 5 is fine where Batgirl is.
I think she wins/goes even with everyone except for MMH, AM and BM. The fact that AM, MMH, BM, WW, Flash, Zod all have better MU spreads means she wouldn't be top 5. She doesn't 7-3 anyone. Just even with about half and 6-4 the other half.
 

RM Truth

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I think she wins/goes even with everyone except for MMH, AM and BM. The fact that AM, MMH, BM, WW, Flash, Zod all have better MU spreads means she wouldn't be top 5. She doesn't 7-3 anyone. Just even with about half and 6-4 the other half.
I disagree with some of those tbh. Maybe one day I'll post my own MU chart, but I'm sure I'll take flak for it somewhere.
 

Vak Phoenix

Warrior
He's a GL main. My issue was that he offered a legitamate counter opinion and you basically replied with you don't know what you're talking about, you don't play KF. Maybe this thread wasn't the right place for him to do that, but you sounded hella condescending to me.
no look. i saaaaid... look I d i d n o t k n o w t h a t h e p l a y e d g r e e n l a n t e r n c a u s e o f h i s n a m e r t a g.
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
Naw, this community doesn't base tiers off MU numbers or we wouldn't see BG in top 5 and Raven out of top 10.
People see Batgirl in the top 5 because despite her MU numbers, 99% of the cast has to guess right or wrong. In that way, every MU is a 5-5 the moment she touches you.
Also Raven's MU numbers don't support her being in top 10 for the reasons I said before about having balanced MUs isn't as good as having lopsoded MUs.

eh, its just due to the fact this game has a lot of stupid characters.
Honesty is a debuff. :(
 

Espio

Kokomo
It amazes how much the game and opinions have changed since the last tier list thread....oh wait:REO. If we're being honest with ourselves we don't know nearly as much as we claim to know. I'm still a long way from fully graspig my characters like everyone else so I dunno why people pretend like they know the entire roster so well abs what matches they win and lose without a doubt. [quot="Pan1cMode, post: 1322799, member: 16263"]I think she wins/goes even with everyone except for MMH, AM and BM. The fact that AM, MMH, BM, WW, Flash, Zod all have better MU spreads means she wouldn't be top 5. She doesn't 7-3 anyone. Just even with about half and 6-4 the other half.[/quote]
Honestly,how do you know all those characters match up spreads? Most people don't know all their mains match ups yet must less other characters beyond conjecture and speculation. Batman and some Flash players in some cases put Batgirl higher than them s that say? Nothing really, but somebody has to be top five.
 
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Pan1cMode

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People see Batgirl in the top 5 because despite her MU numbers, 99% of the cast has to guess right or wrong. In that way, every MU is a 5-5 the moment she touches you.
That's kinda the problem against MMH, BM and AM. Also you basically agreed with me so not arguing with you haha =D
 

Madog32

PSN: ImaGiveItToUBaby
What do you frost players think the GL matchup is like?
I'd also say this is either an even matchup, or slightly in Frosts favor. For most of the reasons listed earlier.

Yes turbine is useless in this matchup, but its also his primary way of getting in. If GL if forced to stay full screen, this gives KF plenty of chances to charge trait. If GL wants to play with jump rockets, KF can attempt to time daggers at full screen SAFELY (and if they hit, MB Iceberg to start vortex), or again charge trait. - giving her even more of an advantage ONCE she is in.

Yes B1,3 or 2 are both parryable. If KF picks up on the fact that you are not finishing your combo and instead spamming B1, they are punishable (at close distance) and you will stop doing that pretty quickly. I also do not believe he can get anything off just a B1 besides whatever small damage it does.

His post slide game is pretty good, but she always has MBF3 :) Other than that, yes she is better off blocking and teching throws. But after a teched throw or a blocked LM or B1, we're right back where we started.

That's my 2 cents. Not an expert in the MU at all. But in my experience, its fair or slightly in her favor