Why does everyone dislike Man of Steel? Rank your movies.

[MKF30]

*Looks at your avatar* lol..this is my whole point. You are obviously a Superman fan and expect it to play out a certain way, which handicaps your ability to enjoy a fresh take about him. I keep hearing "he didn't care about the people." Can you provide some evidence for that? Even as a child in the movie he was debating with his dad about what was right and wrong and even knew then that he should be helping people and saving lives instead of letting them suffer. The whole first half of the movie was about him saving people lol...the bus, oil rig, Lois. Him throwing people through building was him discovering his powers and letting his emotions get the best of him...which was absolutely refreshing. If he gave no fucks about people he would of let Zod eye laser those people instead of breaking necks lol.

As I said, the reason non Superman fans like the MOS is the same reasons his fans/dc readers didn't. I will say this...Lois was a waste.

Good points I agree.

Although I didn't think Lois was a waste, thought she should have been more like Smallville's Lois but I got spoiled with 7 years of Durances style I admit. New 52 Lois reminds me so much of Smallville's Lois, her rebellious attitude towards her dad, fiesty personality etc

I don't get why some folks out there think Superman is supposed to be "God" or something like always making perfect decisions and not even Superman can be everywhere at once. But as you said, there's always going to be people who like and dislike something and the haters. *shrugs*

 

[Euphoric]

Movie was great.

Haters gonna hate. YOLOSWAG.

 

[kivatt]

Man Of Steel was crap for:

having bad chemistry between clark and lois
being unnecessarily bleak and joyless
taking itself entirely too seriously
having a blue/orange boring color palette
and most of all, betraying the character of superman

Seriously. Superman is supposed to have a deep caring for people's lives and safety. Meanwhile, he's throwing Zod through building after building, endangering and likely killing huge numbers of people. And then when he's done fighting, he kisses the girl.

I'm sorry. I'm not even a superman fan. But I know that's NOT superman. Superman doesn't stand infront of a crumbling destroyed city, and kiss the girl, while there are probably thousands of people trapped under tons of concrete. If you don't see that, then I don't know what to tell you.

Really. When he fought Doomsday, he fought him across the county. Killing hundreds of people, but only them decided that it was time to end things once he hit metropolis.

 

[Compbros]

These debates are going in circles so I'm gonna put this in a simple manner and then I'm done.


Man of Steel changed Superman. For anyone that knows Superman (beyond the goofy stuff of the early years) it was a bastardized, watered down version that stripped away his personality and the things that made him "Superman" and it was a change for the worse. For anyone that only knows that goofy Superman it's seen as a more humanizing, lost, and believable/relatable character and it was a change for the better. This is not a good Superman film because they changed what makes Superman "Superman" and the characters around him, no more damaged than Jonathon Kent. Whether you believe it was a good film or not, that's whatever, it's not a good "Superman" film. That is my point.

 

[kivatt]

you are going to put x-men first-class over the dark knight???? how dare you...

He like what he likes. Can't knock him for that.

 

[Euphoric]

I don't know man, I don't go into deep thought and start questioning the meaning of life when I watch a movie, yes, there are deep meaningful movies, but if you're looking to find holes and faults that aren't obvious you're going to find faults.

I don't question in my head, why didn't Superman wash his hands after he took a shit than shook that guys hand, or why he didn't save the 2 people in the helicopter, sometimes when working with mediums such as a film and a great powerful hero like Superman, you can't nit pick every detail.

Every movie has action sequences where there's a public involved, I don't go questioning what happens to that one random redshirt, they tired to convey his good nature and his ability to recognize the powers he had the best they can with the IMPORTANT scenes they shot where he was being the character that made him Superman, scenes that the director wanted to make you see, not some random helicopter pilot or building destruction, or the movie would have been like 5 hours.

It's hard to convey the raw nature of Superman's powers without showing the scale of destruction it has especially going against his Kryptonian counterpart, and if they don't than the whiney fans will whine again saying it was a whimpy fight Superman just LOLFACEROLLED the villain like all the other Superman movies. Or the infamous "there was never a true villain in Superman movies"

And this is not me being ignorant, it's being a bit realistic, when you read a comic strip or a book, you have infinite imagination to do whatever the hell you want, or what ever the artist wants to convey in that one particular comic slide.

 

[Juggs]

@Karried Why does everyone dislike Man of Steel? Because they're whiny dweebs who think they know someone on a deep fundamental level... who doesn't even exist. You can interpret a character any way you want. They chose to go a slightly different way with Superman in MoS. I encourage film makers to change it up like this for Superhero movies. It gives the audience and fans of the character a different point of view instead of regurgitating the same crap over and over.

 

[Euphoric]

@Karried Why does everyone dislike Man of Steel? Because they're whiny dweebs who think they know someone on a deep fundamental level... who doesn't even exist. You can interpret a character any way you want. They chose to go a slightly different way with Superman in MoS. I encourage film makers to change it up like this for Superhero movies. It gives the audience and fans of the character a different point of view instead of regurgitating the same crap over and over.

As stated in The Death and Return of Superman, he doesn't exist, he isn't supposed to be a certain way .

 

[TotteryManx]

I expect Superman to be Superman, yes. Why is that bad? Why should I not lambast a movie that has the source material's main character and says "no, we're changing them"? Why is my thought process in this so laughable?

"I keep hearing 'he didn't care about the people.' Can you provide some evidence for that?"

Superman vs. Zod, Supes is flung into a busy street full of people and never even acknowledges where he is or the people around him, he is 100 percent focused on Zod. I don't expect a "THE PEOPLE ZOD, THE PEOPLE!" from Superman II but this is bad. He either A) does not care about the damage and loss of lives surrounding him or B) is so single minded in taking down Zod that nothing else matters, including people. Also, every one of those instances where Clark is saving people? He's already there and is involved, he didn't go "out of his way". It seems that unless people are in immediate danger he ignores them. Another example:

(near the end)

A guy falls out of the helicopter and Superman saves him, he doesn't even consider the other two still in the destroyed copter before he's hit.


Superman learns as a child not to let his emotions get the better of him or it could be dangerous, in the comics and in THIS VERY FILM he's told very young to not get angry and lose control or people could get hurt. Superman cannot AFFORD to lose control or people die and, again, Lex Luthor is right in that Superman is just a dangerous alien that should be stopped. That's what this movie does, it makes Lex Luthor right instead of an ego maniac that can't see the good that Superman does. A young Superman I would believe would be going through all this and making these mistakes. A 33-year old man whose only powers he "discovered" recently was flight and heat vision, he's known his strength since he was a child, not so much. He lifted an oil rig at the beginning of the movie, what is he discovering?

The reason people like it is because all they know is "goofy" Superman, which this wasn't, and it's a dumb action film with dark undertones, which people love. In a World where transformers made a billion dollars this isn't saying anything to me. Plug any hero with a similar moveset into this film and it's the same thing. It's a by-the-books "dark" Superhero movie that uses the characters of Superman. You know WHO this movie works for much better? Captain Marvel/Shazam since he's a CHILD in an adult body and JUST gets his powers. Then all this makes sense: losing his temper, the destruction, the bad decisions, etc...

I guess the difference in the way I view this movie and the way you do is that I watch superhero movies for fun and to enjoy them. I don't overt think while watching these movies lol. I don't mean any disrespect at all, but I'm not looking around and thinking, "oh the people." Besides, I already pointed out with a few examples of how he cares for humans. Isn't the next Superman movie going to be about how he was careless and the problems that brings? If so, just think about it like a "what if" story arc lol. For me it was completely refreshing and yes..I enjoy the darker tone. I could care less for Transformers though lol.

 

[TotteryManx]

Good points I agree.

Although I didn't think Lois was a waste, thought she should have been more like Smallville's Lois but I got spoiled with 7 years of Durances style I admit. New 52 Lois reminds me so much of Smallville's Lois, her rebellious attitude towards her dad, fiesty personality etc

I don't get why some folks out there think Superman is supposed to be "God" or something like always making perfect decisions and not even Superman can be everywhere at once. But as you said, there's always going to be people who like and dislike something and the haters. *shrugs*

They feel that way because of the source material lol. I feel like this movie took a more realistic approach, which some aren't fond of lol.

 

[Euphoric]

Writers do not have to follow a certain way of writing a character, it's a fictional being, he does not have a set in stone thought process, his thought process is what ever the creator deems it to be.

 

[Spletty]

TDK
Watchmen
Cap 2
ASM
Iron Man 1
Avengers
TDKR
Spider-man 1
Thor2
Hulk (Norton)
Thor1

 

[Zoidberg747]

Man of Steel was boring to me. Couldnt keep my interest, although I find Superman to be one of the most boring superheroes so that might be why.

I like comic book movies to keep it less serious, which is why I liked the thor and avengers movies better. And Iron man, spiderman, pretty much everything else actually. The exception to the less serious part would be Dark Knight which is heads and tails above MOS IMO

 

[MKF30]

They feel that way because of the source material lol. I feel like this movie took a more realistic approach, which some aren't fond of lol.

Yeah I mean it was done in a realistic, modernized way yet kept that superman element, flying etc showing where he cam from etc. I enjoyed it.

 

[Konqrr]

Man Of Steel was crap for:

having bad chemistry between clark and lois
being unnecessarily bleak and joyless
taking itself entirely too seriously
having a blue/orange boring color palette
and most of all, betraying the character of superman

Seriously. Superman is supposed to have a deep caring for people's lives and safety. Meanwhile, he's throwing Zod through building after building, endangering and likely killing huge numbers of people. And then when he's done fighting, he kisses the girl.

I'm sorry. I'm not even a superman fan. But I know that's NOT superman. Superman doesn't stand infront of a crumbling destroyed city, and kiss the girl, while there are probably thousands of people trapped under tons of concrete. If you don't see that, then I don't know what to tell you.

This is pretty much how I feel... however I loved Zod in this and the action was good... but I always hated how the epic fights endanger innocent people. Sure, you can't avoid it in a lot of cases but it does bother me.

 

[ThaShiveGeek]

I LOVED MOS!!! Made me a Superman fan honestly. I picked him up when NRS came out with the Skin on Injustice.

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

Man of steel completely ignored supermans comic book origins.

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

Also. I got to say that watchman was awesome.

 

[MKF30]

MOS didn't ignore the his origins. He came from krypton, last son of, came from Jor-El and Lara, landed in Smallville, grew up to be Superman...pretty sure that follows the mythos.