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Phosferrax

Original Liu Kang cop.
What I think is, instead of building a career, saving money, creating a family, learning something, becoming better human beings, you guys are bitching and moaning about issues no one SHOULD give a shit about after the fact. This happens every single time, something happens in whatever tourney and we get 5 different threads with someone having a nervous breakdown. This is the reason why competitive fighting games will never be as legit as any other sport/competition, because it's like being in a fucking high school. Not even pokemon tournaments have so much drama.

I wanna see Vishy Anand post in a forum that Magnus Carlsen looked at him funny while playing therefore salt and drama.
Liked both for the message and the chess reference. Carlsen bodied anand though.:REO
 

chemist4hire

I Got Guiled
Time to me is a non-issue. The time it takes to drain someone's health bar as a result of something like this is nil in comparison to the time it would take in an actual match.
Meter is also not a big deal. The player who is taking the round kills them using only strings to generate negligible meter (which you could say is fine since they didn't pause- it would be less than a bar anyways). The player that paused can either be forced to burn the meter that they built while their health was being depleted (everyone has mb f3 and b3 in this game people...) or not because either way they would have accrued that meter over the course of the match anyway; if I were in that situation, I'd rather have my opponent at 4 bars of meter and 1 bar of health than 1-2 bars of meter and 1.5 bars of health or whatever.
And regardless of how it's done, it is literally for the best in every way. Watching players play the matches out is a lot more hype than "Oh well, that guys wins, sorry guys...". Players get to test their metal against each other and there is a chance of a really sick comeback from an unfortunate situation. Spectators and streamers win because they get to keep watching rather than missing out on what could be an awesome match. The only guy that can stand to lose is the guy that doesn't get a free win. Sorry, guess you'll have to just stick to doing what you came here for and play video games. Woe is you. If you're in this shit for the money, you're in the wrong field fellas...
I agree with most of this, but the problem lies in the enforcement. Sure it should take less than 10 seconds to drain a gray bar, but if it benefits me to wait to the last second so it guarantees I win the game, why not do it? Is the TO going to disqualify me for pressing the advantage, for being put in a position not of my own doing? It is the done the way it is done to take these options and decisions away from players.

Best thing players can do is use controllers with locked pause buttons and secured wired connections.
 

StevoSuprem0

I'm gonna make this skill gap... disappear.
I agree with most of this, but the problem lies in the enforcement. Sure it should take less than 10 seconds to drain a gray bar, but if it benefits me to wait to the last second so it guarantees I win the game, why not do it? Is the TO going to disqualify me for pressing the advantage, for being put in a position not of my own doing? It is the done the way it is done to take these options and decisions away from players.

Best thing players can do is use controllers with locked pause buttons and secured wired connections.
TO involvement is a must if something like this is going to happen, and that is the most difficult hurdle. It's not a laziness thing or anything, but simply that TO's are generally very busy running the tournament. However, these things don't happen horribly often, so that shouldn't be too big a deal. And to your scenario, yeah I'd say if you are clearly stalling, that should be called. You and others are highlighting a lot of the ways that this almost can't happen because people are scumbags and will find ways to exploit a system like this rather than just play the game, and I respect that. I'm just pointing out that it sucks and with adequate situational analysis by TO's, it's plausible that we could really do something about this stuff.
 

RapZiLLa54

Monster Island Tournaments
Killing Joke is awesome, but I actually kinda like Death of the Family too. Have you read the whole Joker book? It's him at his absolute most sinister. Pretty awesome.
Yea...thats kind of my issue with it though. I'm all for badass joker but this one is just tooooooooo fucked up. Was always a pretty lame build up since none of them actually had their faces cut off right?
 

CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
Administrator
I agree with most of this, but the problem lies in the enforcement. Sure it should take less than 10 seconds to drain a gray bar, but if it benefits me to wait to the last second so it guarantees I win the game, why not do it? Is the TO going to disqualify me for pressing the advantage, for being put in a position not of my own doing? It is the done the way it is done to take these options and decisions away from players.

Best thing players can do is use controllers with locked pause buttons and secured wired connections.
If you were doing to do that, you'd probably take the match anyway. But the rule should be that if you're doing to do it, to do it by expedient means. It'll be obvious if someone is taking 65 ticks to take a life bar.

But again, if you were going to lose the match anyway by DQ, there's not much to complain about. My feeling though is that people who are generous enough to allow their opponent to keep playing, generally just want to play it out and be fair.
 

StevoSuprem0

I'm gonna make this skill gap... disappear.
Yea...thats kind of my issue with it though. I'm all for badass joker but this one is just tooooooooo fucked up. Was always a pretty lame build up since none of them actually had their faces cut off right?
Yeah he was just fucking with them lol. I kinda agree, though, it's a little overboard. I guess I just like it for different reasons. Really wish they made a skin for him in the "Joe's Garage" jumpsuit with his new face though!
 
lol I dont understand whats so bad about rage quitting at a tournament, people just get salty and especially when you just lost a match because of something you could not have prevented and it was not gameplay related as well.

High chance it was PL's controller that paused the game, obviously not on purpose. Especially because it was FK who he played, he wanted to win no matter what and then something like this happens... shit just happens. This isn't something to discuss further anymore.

However I am more curious about this:

''Also as far as REO goes. While I am sitting there venting because I said "Is there anyone here who can beat me straight up?" he says "lets play a MM" and I am like ok lets go but he didn't budge and just stood in the same spot.''

Can somebody confirm this or tell his side of the story?
 

ForeverKing

Patreon.com/MK_ForeverKing
Yea I rage quit. So what I wasn't in the mood to play anymore after going through all of that nonsense. My heart was gone so I was like whatever. I will come back stronger in the next tournament.

Also as far as REO goes. While I am sitting there venting because I said "Is there anyone here who can beat me straight up?" he says "lets play a MM" and I am like ok lets go but he didn't budge and just stood in the same spot.

Anyway I will see you all at Civil War.
Well first off I would like to say our beef is squashed and I have nothing against you personally, and I hope you feel the same way.

BUT I do need to address this thread you have here. When you paused I took the win because that should just be the rules of the game period. When I accidentally paused against Theo in Winner's Finals at SCR2014, I was like damn this sucks the match was really close, but I took my loss like a man because I know I paused it and I deserved that loss. Same for you, you paused it so you deserve that loss.

Also I just wanna say who cares about the 1st match, what happened the 2nd match? :) lol no but seriously even if you won the first match, that 2nd match would have still happened, and most likely I would have won the 2/3. If you want me to be honest I think I was gonna make a comeback anyways that first match, so you would have lost the 2nd match the same way afterwards and the result of the tournament set would have been the same.

And as a reply to your "Is there anyone that who can beat me straight up?" My answer to that is HELL YEAH. We can do a first to 5 or first to 10 for $50 or $100
 

ReD WolF

Lord of the Drip
What I think is, instead of building a career, saving money, creating a family, learning something, becoming better human beings, you guys are bitching and moaning about issues no one SHOULD give a shit about after the fact. This happens every single time, something happens in whatever tourney and we get 5 different threads with someone having a nervous breakdown. This is the reason why competitive fighting games will never be as legit as any other sport/competition, because it's like being in a fucking high school. Not even pokemon tournaments have so much drama.

I wanna see Vishy Anand post in a forum that Magnus Carlsen looked at him funny while playing therefore salt and drama.

Agreed.

It's because we have waaaaaay too many divas with misplaced egos in this community.