Biggest difference between this community and others

[MKB]

The biggest difference between this community and other communities (ok seriously I am only talking about capcom)

Is that online long casual sets mean more here than a tournament win does.

I'm starting to feel like we all are playing this game wrong (yes it hasn't been a year yet that this game has been out) but we all are practicing online then going offline and using our online tactics offline.

Well at least the majority of us. No wonder people who mainly play online do well offline because all the online practitioners are the ones to show up to events.

There are a bunch of tactics a lot of us aren't doing like back dashing strings and properly blocking certain mix ups.

I think the reason this mentality is stuck here is cause everyone started from playing online and there wasn't an already established arcade competitive community like the Capcom also there isn't anyone here to say "Hey guys you know your wins online don't hold any weight right?"

Anyway I think people should stop bragging about "the count" or "sets" when they are playing 100% online.

This is a debate that will always be waged regardless of the game or genre. While I understand the difference between online VS offline (lag being the biggest issue) and have been to a number of offline events, to completely discredit online play as completely meaningless is a load of hogwash. We need to remember that the days of the arcades are long gone and not everyone has access to a local arcade scene where they live anymore. It's just a sign of the changing times and it's no different than the changing of music media from 8-track to cassette to CD to digital. Are people who listen to digital music not as cool or intelligent as those who listened to CD's?

I went to my first offline event a few years ago after being primarily an online player most of the time. While I didn't win, I managed to place top 3, beat virtually every single offline player, and have been doing so in my respective game ever since.

 

[Fred Marvel]

PL is right about not playing the game correct, as a GL player ive played thousands of matches online and had b13 backdashed and punished less than 5 times i can only think of once off the top of my head, i mean dont play all the top tournament players alot but even playing good players and watching tournaments theres a lot of shit people do that they shouldnt get away with. but its getting better, before SJ nobody knew how to really play this game its still growing

 

[trufenix]

This doesn't happen in other scenes because it doesn't have to. Nobody cares about online results in SF or Marvel because EH / SRK literally can't keep up with the amount of offline sets being run all over the globe between top players and scenes. NRS community doesn't even remotely have that.

We get hype when our weeklies break 20-30 people but EMP or Justin Wong or Filipino Champ could get that many players together at their house any night of the week.

 

[Glass Sword]

PL is right about not playing the game correct, as a GL player ive played thousands of matches online and had b13 backdashed and punished less than 5 times i can only think of once off the top of my head, i mean dont play all the top tournament players alot but even playing good players and watching tournaments theres a lot of shit people do that they shouldnt get away with. but its getting better, before SJ nobody knew how to really play this game its still growing

In your opinion is it worth doing if you get nothing off doing it not even space really? My backdash is so crummy I might not even be that plus.

 

[Zyphox]

Why not? That's part of my daily routine lol

i was high most of WB, its my secret medicine you could tell i was coming off of it because i stopped popping off haha

 

[Qwark28]

Ever since I played this character I've always been striving to take him one step further, to pride myself in looking back a month and saying "Look at all the things I was doing wrong" and due to some IRL health issues I wasn't attending my local scene for about 4 months and just grinded it out online with as many top players I could find but I could never find that spark that inspired me.

I finally was able to go for a session this past weekend and it made me emo for a day or two but now I'm hungrier and in 4 hours learned more than I would have in 2-3 weeks of online without looking for player x and y at 2 am in a laggy connection in which I can't do half my offline combos and setups.

Online is usable, but offline is a 100x xp boost.

 

[THTB]

In your opinion is it worth doing if you get nothing off doing it not even space really? My backdash is so crummy I might not even be that plus.

Exactly, which is why only quicker backdashes are worth using to avoid b13, and it can only be done if b1 isn't spaced out well enough. When b1 is blocked in later frames, it jails...judging from Zod being unable to parry it, there's likely only like a 2-frame gap, so 3rd active frame onward = jailed.

To comment on the topic, offline is better for sure, but when only the actual big scenes bring in more than 5 players, that's a sign of exactly how small and spread out the NRS community really is.

 

[Vulcan Hades]

There are good differences too. Like being more forum based I think is a great thing for the game and for the community in general. Mainly because you have more proximity with the top players.

On SRK or Eventhubs, I don't feel like I'm close to Dieminion, Justin Wong, SnakeEyez or PR Balrog. It feels like they live on another planet and I have to be part of a VIP hollywood club to be able to ask them a question. Where as here you can just PM Pig, m2dave, Tom Brady, REO, 16-Bit, Slips or PL, ask them gameplay/MU related questions and they'll probably get back to you. (Well in PL's case he'll probably charge you 15$ but you get the point. )

It reduces the gap between online warriors, training mode monsters and offline tournament players.

 

[Dizzy]

This is worse other communities. In KI community its definitely worse. I'm sure it was like this in DOA too @Perfect Legend

I think NRS community is in the inbetween. They value online a little too highly but tournament wins are definitely considered the top accolade.

 

[Rude]

This is a legitimate question.

I am not trying to blow anyone up.

In fact, I feel like I have to qualify things before I say them now.

Guys like King, Sonic Fox, even Wound Cowboy were online only warriors before becoming household names. If online has no value, how did you explain their rise? They had to start from the beginning like every one else. Again, I'm just asking and not trying to make any points or blow anyone up or in any way imply that I know anything about anything, ever.

 

[Rampage254]

@rev0lver bodied me while he was turnt

 

[Under_The_Mayo]

The biggest difference between this community and other communities (ok seriously I am only talking about capcom)

Is that online long casual sets mean more here than a tournament win does.

The award for biggest strawman argument goes to PL.

 

[rev0lver]

@rev0lver bodied me while he was turnt

Well now I understand the vision of @MF SLAYER but that's not the point.

 

[Fred Marvel]

In your opinion is it worth doing if you get nothing off doing it not even space really? My backdash is so crummy I might not even be that plus.

well you play raven right? you dont need to backdash b13 to bop a lantern lol i mean the characters who can get a full punish off of it not doing it

 

[dookieagain]

This is a legitimate question.

I am not trying to blow anyone up.

In fact, I feel like I have to qualify things before I say them now.

Guys like King, Sonic Fox, even Wound Cowboy were online only warriors before becoming household names. If online has no value, how did you explain their rise? They had to start from the beginning like every one else. Again, I'm just asking and not trying to make any points or blow anyone up or in any way imply that I know anything about anything, ever.

Online is valuable for matchup experience and it can be a training tool, but King and Fox are both playing characters who work online. (Rushdown based and forgiving timing wise) Batman and Batgirl both get to play their game their way and things like good anti-air and blocking mixups are not a major issue if your goal is to be forcing your opponent into a blockstring all the time.

It's the same reason characters like Cammy and C. Viper work online and more footsies based or reactionary characters don't.

 

[Rude]

Online is valuable for matchup experience and it can be a training tool, but King and Fox are both playing characters who work online. (Rushdown based and forgiving timing wise) Batman and Batgirl both get to play their game their way and things like good anti-air and blocking mixups are not a major issue if your goal is to be forcing your opponent into a blockstring all the time.

It's the same reason characters like Cammy and C. Viper work online and more footsies based or reactionary characters don't.

I'm not just talking about Injustice. Both players were online-only during MK9 until they attended tournaments and had success.

 

[juicepouch]

I'm not just talking about Injustice. Both players were online-only during MK9 until they attended tournaments and had success.

I suppose you could argue they were succeeding in spite of being online only as opposed to because of it

 

[Rude]

I suppose you could argue they were succeeding in spite of being online only as opposed to because of it

That's definitely possible.

They are certainly anomalies.

 

[Glass Sword]

well you play raven right? you dont need to backdash b13 to bop a lantern lol i mean the characters who can get a full punish off of it not doing it

Wonderwomen can with b1 it is a tough punish however and some other characters. Batman can.

 

[Fred Marvel]

Wonderwomen can with b1 it is a tough punish however and some other characters. Batman can.

cant WW parry it too?

 

[Glass Sword]

cant WW parry it too?

With shield, I don't know about lasso. In shield she gets no punish from the backdash.

 

[Fred Marvel]

With shield, I don't know about lasso. In shield she gets no punish from the backdash.

ah i thought lasso was the one she could parry it in maybe i had it backwards

 

[Euphoric]

 

[Vulcan Hades]

This is a debate that will always be waged regardless of the game or genre. While I understand the difference between online VS offline (lag being the biggest issue) and have been to a number of offline events, to completely discredit online play as completely meaningless is a load of hogwash. We need to remember that the days of the arcades are long gone and not everyone has access to a local arcade scene where they live anymore. It's just a sign of the changing times and it's no different than the changing of music media from 8-track to cassette to CD to digital. Are people who listen to digital music not as cool or intelligent as those who listened to CD's?

I went to my first offline event a few years ago after being primarily an online player most of the time. While I didn't win, I managed to place top 3, beat virtually every single offline player, and have been doing so in my respective game ever since.

Yeah for a long time there was this misconception about online warriors. People seemed to think that good online players were going to be automatically bad once they played offline. But the reality is if you're good online chances are you will be 10 times better offline (if you don't rely on lag tactics of course). Because offline things are much easier to block/react to and combos are easier to land. Some matchups become actually winnable offline where online they are pretty much 10-0s. The only problem for some players is the tourney nerves and the pressure that they often create for themselves.

But LBSH, training online with all the lag is like Goku training with his fucking heavy boots, armbands and shirt on King Kai's planet. Playing offline is just like taking the weights off.

 

[LEGI0N47]

Personally I could never ever get online Injustice to feel anywhere near close enough to offline to make playing it worthwhile. I've dropped the game despite liking it a lot for that reason. We have an offline scene here, but they only play AE/MvC3. I bring Injustice but only one or two people even give me matches and nobody played it seriously.

I have the same issue. There are about 2 guys that play this game only and I usually only get to play one at a time it seems. Then about 3-4 guys dabble but AE/MvC3 & Tekken are huge where I live and KI is growing thanks to the MS store. It just seems people don't want to get together much when there isn't a scene per say. But it's so much better than on-line when we do.

I can't take on-line seriously with some of the BS that goes on there, but it still makes me salty lol.

Also to the guys that play high or whatever. I play drunk a lot, and it doesn't work out, so good on ya if you do well that way. Bews doesn't help me at all!