Martian Manhunter Broken Meter Build Strategy + more

[REDRUM]

Wait. That shit is 5 frames???

I mean a lot of characters can interrupt 113 anyway, but wtf, why does he of all characters have 5 frame normals?

He is the leader of the Justice League

 

[REDRUM]

Doomsday can whiff random AIR-SNATCH (

) although not nearly as safe

 

[The Highlander]

His trait has 7 second cooldown, what is your point? that guy was calling him perfect so i replied, his zoning is ENTIRELY read based and if he messes his reads up, you can get in easy, his zoning has good chip and controls space very well while building meter, but has a lot of start-up compared to other zoners and none of his projectiles track or go on a single line, raven, sinestro, zod, even batman and superman zone better than him, he doesn't care about the magic pixel and he's undeniably the best, but a lot of people consider him this god tier character which he's not.

Ok I agree with the point about reads but the sheer ability to control space is insane especially with the teleport, it just can't be done at a mediocre level as fast as some other forms of zoning. I get that you know he's good but looking at all the amazing tools everyone has in this game (I mean multiple characters are walking armour essentially) isn't calling him the best actually calling him god tier? He doesn't really lose to anyone that's pretty damn amazing to me, what you're saying is that it's not like he 7-3's everyone right?

 

[rehti]

Joker can do the same with teeth.... Let's hotfix that shit!

 

[Helix123]

Ok I agree with the point about reads but the sheer ability to control space is insane especially with the teleport, it just can't be done at a mediocre level as fast as some other forms of zoning. I get that you know he's good but looking at all the amazing tools everyone has in this game (I mean multiple characters are walking armour essentially) isn't calling him the best actually calling him god tier? He doesn't really lose to anyone that's pretty damn amazing to me, what you're saying is that it's not like he 7-3's everyone right?

Kind of like that, the character is fantastic at controlling space but i don't believe he's as good as people like reo think he is, but what do i know, i'm just a nobody after all.

 

[Kinetic Demise]

No. If that was the case, Killer Frost's Slide would be punished by Superman's Super, but it doesn't.

From what I have seen from this game, you need a frame under in order to punish. Example: You can not punish -6 moves with 6 frame attacks. Batman string b113 is -6 but not able to be punished by a 6 frame d1 but is punished by mmh f1 and zatanna standing 1. Nightwing staffspin also minus 6 and unpunishable by mmh f1 due to low hit box. This is the case for many moves in this game that I tested months ago. I'm not home till later tonight, then we may test it.

 

[JDM]

What character did you use? You do know that back to back shots punished any dashes in between right? (At least for most characters, if not all, including Flash since his dash wasn't buffed yet back then.)

If you really were fine with that then by all means. I'm fine with broken sh*t in games now thanx to Injustice. I'd use pre-patch Deathstroke if he returned. I'm not komplaining. I'm just pointing out broken shit when I see it...

Not true. High to low shots punished dashes. Low to anything did not. So if he did high shots you had to guess what he'd do next, if he did low shots you jumped, if he did high you could dash.

It's called reading your opponent, something that is very important in fighting games, ya know?

 

[JDM]

His trait has 7 second cooldown, what is your point? that guy was calling him perfect so i replied, his zoning is ENTIRELY read based and if he messes his reads up, you can get in easy, his zoning has good chip and controls space very well while building meter, but has a lot of start-up compared to other zoners and none of his projectiles track or go on a single line, raven, sinestro, zod, even batman and superman zone better than him, he doesn't care about the magic pixel and he's undeniably the best, but a lot of people consider him this god tier character which he's not.

He's definitely god tier. Along with Batgirl and Aquaman

 

[Fallen_sektor]

eeeeewwww

 

[StevoSuprem0]

You can do the same thing with Joker's teeth, FYI. It's an interesting part of some of the matchups that he can actually manage to zone in.

 

[Red Reaper]

Not true. High to low shots punished dashes. Low to anything did not. So if he did high shots you had to guess what he'd do next, if he did low shots you jumped, if he did high you could dash.

It's called reading your opponent, something that is very important in fighting games, ya know?

Haha.. Whatever. Even Deathstroke mains like @KingHippo would say that he needed a nerf...

 

[KingHippo]

He was brooooookkkkeeee. Easily top 3 before the patch.

 

[JDM]

He was brooooookkkkeeee. Easily top 3 before the patch.

Top 3 = broke

okay

 

[Red Reaper]

Top 3 = broke

okay

Well Supes and Zod were broke too. Or are you going to argue against the infinites?

 

[KingHippo]

Top 3 = broke

okay

Not to derail but being Trait Raven all the time and having good 50/50s and midrange game was super broke, just like pre patch Adam and Superman

 

[JDM]

Well Supes and Zod were broke too. Or are you going to argue against the infinites?

Zod was out when Deathstroke was top tier??

??
Deathstroke wasn't broke. And like I said EVEN if he was, he was nerfed extremely quickly before the matchup was even given a chance to be understood.

 

[Red Reaper]

Zod was out when Deathstroke was top tier??

??
Deathstroke wasn't broke. And like I said EVEN if he was, he was nerfed extremely quickly before the matchup was even given a chance to be understood.

Zod wasn't out. You're right about that.

Deathstroke wasn't supposed to be that way. They said they weren't able to fix him in the day 1 patch. Even Green Arrow's low arrow fix wasn't fixed until three patches later despite Paulo telling us about it way in advance...

 

[REDRUM]

@Perfect Legend To be honest shouldn't MMH players when they throw 2 orbs on the screen start shooting pillars which also build meter as well but also put stuff on the screen to worry about, RATHER than just whifing orbs after 2 are on screen already...

 

[Name v.5.0]

This is a post of MY opinions so dont fire back at me with your bullshit.

This is why I hate DLC characters. With no patches in mind think of how they were released. Lobo...instant low tier but probably planned along with the original cast and fits the meta. Batgirl seemed planned as well. She was good but still had weaknesses and also fit the meta. Scorpion comes out uber broke. Seemed like he was planned in character only and not what he would be able to do. Zod drops at S tier, and remains top 3.

NRS decides to make even more...MMH comes out S tier and still gets buffs. Zatanna drops and is one of the most underrated characters in the game. People had already established what characters they were fond of and she just doesnt get picked up by many people.


TLDR: DLC characters just fuck up the balance of the game. They are untested and should die in a fire.