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CptXecution

Brain Dead Bro
I'm sorry but it's getting so annoying on EVERY thread of EVERY character crying for ners or buffs for every character. People just need to deal with the matchups like the rest of us. YES there are some things that need to be removed i.e. Reptile force ball glitch. But this game is extremely balanced and EVO did nothing but show that. 11 different characters in the top 9. Each character has their weakness and their strengths. Their good matchups and bad matchups (yes some characters have more good than bad and vice versa) but that's no reason to cry for nerfs and buffs so you can have a good matchup against every character. It wouldn't be a fighting game without a tier list and characters being better than others (SF, MVC, Tekken, etc all have this). Just tired of seeing SO MANY people crying about this. NRS has taken care of us by balancing the game the best they can now let's give them a break by not complaining about the game they've made for us and worked SO HARD to please us.
 

Subby

Frost Warrior
After this patch we'll need to stop with the patches and cool down for now. Since the last DLC character is gonna come out, it'll be good if we get a fresh breath of air and start researching each person.
 

CptXecution

Brain Dead Bro
After this patch we'll need to stop with the patches and cool down for now. Since the last DLC character is gonna come out, it'll be good if we get a fresh breath of air and start researching each person.
Agreed this next patch will be the last one that is needed because it will fix what is wrong with it....and does anyone know exactly what's going to happen?
 

Subby

Frost Warrior
Agreed this next patch will be the last one that is needed because it will fix what is wrong with it....and does anyone know exactly what's going to happen?
I'm hearing RIGHT after Freddy DLC. If thats the case then its perfect timing.
 

BookBurning

Voidwards
CptXecution, I'm right there with you man but a part of me almost believes that we just need to stop talking about it completely. But I doubt that'd happen, the reality of things is people will post what they want to post, as much as I hate it.

Too many people play online and get salty because they get beat by a dashing Reptile or teleporting Raiden. They come here then, complaining for nerfs or buffs for their characters to counteract this one thing. Little do they realize that it's not their opponents fault, but theirs for not countering it.
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
There's nothing wrong with suggesting reasonable improvements. What do you want Sheeva and Stryker players to do? Be content that their characters suck?
 
I'm sorry but it's getting so annoying on EVERY thread of EVERY character crying for ners or buffs for every character. People just need to deal with the matchups like the rest of us. YES there are some things that need to be removed i.e. Reptile force ball glitch. But this game is extremely balanced and EVO did nothing but show that. 11 different characters in the top 9. Each character has their weakness and their strengths. Their good matchups and bad matchups (yes some characters have more good than bad and vice versa) but that's no reason to cry for nerfs and buffs so you can have a good matchup against every character. It wouldn't be a fighting game without a tier list and characters being better than others (SF, MVC, Tekken, etc all have this). Just tired of seeing SO MANY people crying about this. NRS has taken care of us by balancing the game the best they can now let's give them a break by not complaining about the game they've made for us and worked SO HARD to please us.
Please list KL bad matchups.

You know why people cry for buffs/nerfs? because NRS will eventually do some of them.
 

BookBurning

Voidwards
There's nothing wrong with suggesting reasonable improvements. What do you want Sheeva and Stryker players to do? Be content that their characters suck?
As much as I agree with you Dave, the problem is that almost every single thread that has popped up has been about a character that needs neither a buff or nerf, I mean just look through the recent character threads concerning this. On top of that the people mostly don't suggest anything, they state stuff as if its a fact and most of the time it simply isn't.

If we had Sheeva and Stryker players suggesting intelligent buffs for their characters with decent reasons, I'd be more than happy over that. Unfortunately, as far as the bulk of it goes, this is not the case.
 

xenogorgeous

.... they mostly come at night. Mostly.
I think nerfs and buffs have their place, when they are strictly necessary, due some gameplay inconsistency ...... other than that, yep, it's annoying to see childish request for them, when some people don't feel like will to learn to play better with their favourite character, and at the same time, learn to defend better against their "nemesis" in MK9 .......
 

CptXecution

Brain Dead Bro
There's nothing wrong with suggesting reasonable improvements. What do you want Sheeva and Stryker players to do? Be content that their characters suck?
There's only so much you can do for characters. They can't give them all new moves. Personally I hope for a UMK9 where they give characters like Sheeva or Stryker more options. The problem is most of the suggestions are BEYOND resonable and they want to have a good matchup against EVERY character.
 
NRS shouldnt have patched the game so early, they should just remove the broken stuff, now we all want patches!

Just do a UMK9 already
 

CptXecution

Brain Dead Bro
Please list KL bad matchups.

You know why people cry for buffs/nerfs? because NRS will eventually do some of them.
A bad matchup for KL is Kitana. Regardless there hasn't been a character nerfed more in this game than my main (KL) but I've done nothing but support and agree with each change and stand by my character no matter what. I had no idea how OP he was in the beginning and yes I played like a random but I learned how to play the game for real and competively. Go to an offline scene and then see how bad certain characters are. It's not the character all the time....it's the player.
 

JHCRANE 14

GO VOLS!!!
Just fix the things that are truly broken. Like Reptiles forceball glitch and Kenshi's EX absorb. Then let the game be.
 

CY MasterHavik

Master of Chaos and Jax
People gotta lay off asking for UMK9. Tom said we were pigbacking sf and marvel players for support. Doing this will make us followers not leaders. The choice is yours. Do you want to be a follower or a leader?
 

CptXecution

Brain Dead Bro
People gotta lay off asking for UMK9. Tom said we were pigbacking sf and marvel players for support. Doing this will make us followers not leaders. The choice is yours. Do you want to be a follower or a leader?
eehh I think we're going off UMK3 more than anything. At least I am.
 
A bad matchup for KL is Kitana. Regardless there hasn't been a character nerfed more in this game than my main (KL) but I've done nothing but support and agree with each change and stand by my character no matter what. I had no idea how OP he was in the beginning and yes I played like a random but I learned how to play the game for real and competively. Go to an offline scene and then see how bad certain characters are. It's not the character all the time....it's the player.
I went and i have won the 2 tournments i have attended to so?

I want to be a follower of the good things and a leader to do better in the bad ones
 
There's only so much you can do for characters. They can't give them all new moves. Personally I hope for a UMK9 where they give characters like Sheeva or Stryker more options. The problem is most of the suggestions are BEYOND resonable and they want to have a good matchup against EVERY character.
I'm just as sick of unreasonable demands "nerf scorpian!!1" as I am of the whole elitist "im pro, I eat bad matchups for breakfast since '95" attitude. There are plenty of middle road adjustments that would qualify as buffs but not in the realm of the Kano upball debacle. As a player, yes, you should always play the card you are dealt, but that doesn't change the fact that some characters could use moderate help. I mean, if stryker was given some reduced startup time or recovery on a string that was, until then, utterly USELESS, would you even notice? What if they tested it to make sure it didn't make any 90% combos?

There are many strings in the game that are pretty much useless, and could be adjusted to be useful without being broken. Dare I say balanced?? Just because Capcom doesn't do it without a price tag, doesn't mean it can't be done without pissing people off.
I can't believe people rather spend another $40-60 so soon on a umk9 for reworked balance....that they are opposed to implementing in the current game. Thats bloody nonsense.
 

CptXecution

Brain Dead Bro
I went and i have won the 2 tournments i have attended to so?

I want to be a follower of the good things and a leader to do better in the bad ones
Every fighting game has good and bad characters, just the way it is. We can't make them all good. Like I said...they can't just give them a new move set. The game is about as balanced as it can probably be.
 

CptXecution

Brain Dead Bro
I'm just as sick of unreasonable demands "nerf scorpian!!1" as I am of the whole elitist "im pro, I eat bad matchups for breakfast since '95" attitude. There are plenty of middle road adjustments that would qualify as buffs but not in the realm of the Kano upball debacle. As a player, yes, you should always play the card you are dealt, but that doesn't change the fact that some characters could use moderate help. I mean, if stryker was given some reduced startup time or recovery on a string that was, until then, utterly USELESS, would you even notice? What if they tested it to make sure it didn't make any 90% combos?

There are many strings in the game that are pretty much useless, and could be adjusted to be useful without being broken. Dare I say balanced?? Just because Capcom doesn't do it without a price tag, doesn't mean it can't be done without pissing people off.
I can't believe people rather spend another $40-60 so soon on a umk9 for reworked balance....that they are opposed to implementing in the current game. Thats bloody nonsense.
I'm all for balancing 100%
 
. The game is about as balanced as it can probably be.
WTF?
You honestly cant think of one nerf buff to make the game more balanced?

We dont need a new move set we need things more fair.
Do we need a new game? probably not but if they cant do it in the patches i hope there is a new game.