Killer Instinct: The Game That Is Hated For The Wrong Reasons

[StevoSuprem0]

@AK Pig Of The Hut, I see what your saying, but I think you're looking at the situation (Killer Instinct being released with 6 characters and such) the wrong way.
Yes, it sucks that Microsoft is able to influence studios to rush their product out the door like this, I completely agree there.
But I think, in line with what you've been saying about imagining Injustice being released with only a handful of characters, you have to also consider the timelines as well.
So imagine Injustice being released with, let's say, 8 characters, but a year prior to when it was actually released.
I kinda like this model in some ways. It allows players to focus more on matchups because there aren't such a vast amount to learn, and really identify what they need to work on. I love Injustice, but it can be a little overwhelming to learn all of the tech in such a huge roster if you can't play constantly and don't play certain characters often.
Now the game can evolve with the meta and future characters are able to be fit into that meta more appropriately. AND, we get more time with the game in the beginning, which is pretty cool. More time for character issues to be fleshed out and dealt with (I can't speak for every character in Injustice, but I know Joker's parry and some of his mid-whiffing strings really needed to be addressed and never were).
You're right that it's troubling that the game might be short lived due to a lack of interest, but I think interest is only going to go up as time goes on, with more content being released, more people buying the system (Titanfall bro, Titanfall), and more people giving it a chance.
It's extremely accessible in terms of being able to play it when you own the system and the mechanics of the game, and though the combo system is very unique, it's pretty easy to learn.
All in all, I think the future is looking bright for the game, and it will likely thrive as long as it continues to improve, so please don't CD Jr it quite yet...

 

[Saboteur-6]

Can we talk about that Fulgore reveal!?! That VOICE maaaaaaaaaaaaan.....That's what fucking Skynet is going to sound like.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

I would agree with this in the sense that the game has a relatively small cast and by the time the NEXT character is released people may have gotten tired of SabrewulfSabrewulf. Killer Instinct will most definitely be at EVO... this is a no-brainer. EVO will light some torches for the game.

Evo can truly save or destroy the game

I for know hope it is a new beginning and a great one

We will see

 

[arde5643]

They did this with titanfall (regardless of the issue with 6v6 as of now) but this was a smart move. The point of this is that they KNEW that the money was on the X360 copies....

Titanfall will also be on PC and X360 though - plus you don't have to pay a $200 stick to play the game comfortably.

I don't care much for KI's gameplay, but MS' release plan really really hurts the game.
With the very limited user base, very expensive upfront fee, as well as very limited content that pretty much ensures fewer and fewer adoption of the title, it's dead. It'll be lucky to even do SFxT numbers at this rate.

Evo can truly save or destroy the game

I for know hope it is a new beginning and a great one

We will see

Only if MS pays them oodles amount.
KI's definitely not stream friendly (lack of people who know or play the game (both players and stream monsters), some issues with setting up XONE systems in tourneys (getting better though), and lack of major streaming time for KI currently.

It's the egg and chicken issue basically.

 

[CD jr]

we all know why some people here hate on ki, stopped playing it after a while, or simply just talk shit for no reason and its not cause the game is unfinished which it is we are just missing 2 characters well besides season 2 later this year. but im not gonna get into it cause im trying to make peace with this community again ill just keep watching the people that said they were gonna go hard in the game talk shit about it cause they realize gimmicks and other BS doesnt work in that game and you actually gotta have good footsies and a good ground game to even be relevant in that game. with that being said im gonna diss myself now. isnt it funny how i complained about jumping being to good in inj and anti airs sucking and i play sadira in KI? im hypocrite

 

[Crathen]

well yeah in theory u can AA anything,

but no one fucking anit airs because they are not reliable enough in a match to throw out.

sure go into practice record u AAing bane with black adam's D2 i bet you could do it.

in tournament? fuck no you will not even attempt it.

Moot point , many games aka anime games / mvc / even SFIV have hard to AA jumpins and some of them have way scarier mixup tools than what's in injustice.

You can also use dashes to get out of the jumping attack hitbox , there's universal armor options and more specific characters that AA pretty damn good , jumpins are not the problem and this "to be a good game you should never be allowed to jump" is SFIV wannabe good player hipocrisy at his best , also Anti airs in injustice give wayyy more damage than most KI AA options.

Games are different and having a sour mouth about Injustice ( or KI ) gameplay wise is wannabe elite shit , wich is funny at the beginning but gets boring when it repeats over and over.

Pig also NEVER said the gamePLAY was bad , it's actually good ( even in my opinion ) but the game problem at tournaments # has to be from those points he's highlighting to DISCUSS about them.

 

[Zoidberg747]

i could AA perfectly with WW pig, i dont like the game because its unbalanced. stop trying to call me out never did i say WW sucked at AA i said she could AA anything she wants.

god you're like a 30 old man dude calm down. i said its unbalanced

You say it is unbalanced yet the last 3 majors had 8-9 different characters in top 8.

Again, Sabrewulf has won the majority of KI tournaments. I get that there are only 6 characters but anyone that follows the scene knows the majority plays Sabrewulf/

 

[GhosT]

KI with 6 Characters is about as deep as Injustice with a Full roster. By design there is a lot of shit keeping the game fresh with only a few characters.

Its also going to suffer because not only is the game new, the console is new.

If your hating on KI because you dont like the game thats fair. If your hating on it because your a console fanboy or your just broke, that means your just a mark.

If you are saying the game is crusty or stale from 6 characters. You definately havent played the game and need to go work on your jump ins and 20% unblockable setups.

Edit: For zoidberg, the Saberwulf deal is a result of how simple yet effective he is. Similar to superman days on injustice. people are starting to figure him out. Noway around 6 characters, I get the dissapointment there, different strokes for dif folks i know.

I dont care what game someone likes, its just annoying to hear criticism knowing a good majority of it is coming from gamers who have yet to play it.

 

[M2Dave]

An X-Box One costs $500. The characters cost $40. X-Box Live costs $50. The fighting game stick costs $200. So you need to spend almost $800 to play the game competitively. Speaking of competition, the game gets limited stream time and participants at major tournaments. You are a fool if you spent $800 to play a demo, and I sincerely believe that you Killer Instinct fanatics recognize your foolishness, yet you need to attack Injustice to make yourselves feel better about spending $800.

The demo should not be at Evolution this year. The fighting game community wants to see a completed game being played at a high level.

 

[redeyes]

You say it is unbalanced yet the last 3 majors had 8-9 different characters in top 8.

Again, Sabrewulf has won the majority of KI tournaments. I get that there are only 6 characters but anyone that follows the scene knows the majority plays Sabrewulf/

the majority of the KI tournaments have also been won by Jwong who we all know is a god at FGs

but yes sabre is too stronk.

 

[cR WoundCowboy]

lmao pig i had respect for you at one point.

You lost respect for him because he said that you have options? I personally have no problem AAing people in tournament and yes, Black Adam can AA almost any jump attack with his D2. The AA thing is by design: could you imagine if Adam had an Aquman D2 IN ADDITION to his godlike footsies and air control? The same thing goes for characters like Superman and Lex. Most characters have something to AA with and even if they don't, their toolset allows them to compensate with things like trip guard or MB B3/F3

People invent make-believe rules about how a fighting game "should" work and they think that every fighting game should work the same. Injustice is simply different, which does not make it inferior.

 

[arde5643]

It's nice and good to dream - yes, it would be great for any FGC community if their game of choice always prospers.

But if you think that somehow KI3 with the debacle of XB1 and current F2P release plan can actually survive, well, I've got a bridge to sell you...

 

[GhosT]

An X-Box One costs $500. The characters cost $40. X-Box Live costs $50. The fighting game stick costs $200. So you need to spend almost $800 to play the game competitively. Speaking of competition, the game gets limited stream time and participants at major tournaments. You are a fool if you spent $800 to play a demo, and I sincerely believe that you Killer Instinct fanatics recognize your foolishness, yet you need to attack Injustice to make yourselves feel better about spending $800.

The demo should not be at Evolution this year. The fighting game community wants to see a completed game being played at a high level.

You dont calculate a console price into what it costs to play a game, eithr you want a console or not. News flash, KI will actually load and allow you to play WITHOUT plugging in a 200$ TEstick.. we all know you play pad anyway wtf you cryin for?

Funny cuz MK was a red headed stepchild of streaming, yet this is an issue?

Last thing. I do realize ppl need to leave injusice players alone. You can have that one.

 

[ShadowBeatz]

You are a fool if you spent $800 to play a demo, and I sincerely believe that you Killer Instinct fanatics recognize your foolishness, yet you need to attack Injustice to make yourselves feel better about spending $800.

The demo should not be at Evolution this year. The fighting game community wants to see a completed game being played at a high level.

1. How many hundreds of dollars do you spend on plane-tickets/gas money/hotels to play Injustice? You're going to shell out a ton of money to play ANY game competitively.

2. There are only a select few people that are attacking Injustice (and I don't agree with that either)

3. If you call this a demo, then you haven't played it. The fighting engine IS complete. If this game was released exactly as it was but with 20 characters, would you consider it a demo? No. So you're criteria for a complete fighting game is the number of characters? Sorry MK1, guess you aren't complete

If you don't like KI because there isn't any "pew-pew," that's completely fair, but to bring up my original post, if you judge this game simply on it's roster, then you are INCREDIBLY close-minded

 

[trustinme]

If u play ki enjoy yourself.
If u play injustice enjoy yourself.

 

[Greenk4]

Can we talk about that Fulgore reveal!?! That VOICE maaaaaaaaaaaaan.....That's what fucking Skynet is going to sound like.

My body is ready for Fulgore action, I hope he has both his classic costumes (Man-in-suit KI1 plz!)

 

[Rathalos]

You dont calculate a console price into what it costs to play a game, eithr you want a console or not. News flash, KI will actually load and allow you to play WITHOUT plugging in a 200$ TEstick.. we all know you play pad anyway wtf you cryin for?

Funny cuz MK was a red headed stepchild of streaming, yet this is an issue?

Last thing. I do realize ppl need to leave injusice players alone. You can have that one.

Even MK got a lot more stream time then what KI is currently getting.

I may not personally find it very fun to watch right now, but others do, so i'm pretty confused why it's getting snubbed so hard.

Hopefully as the KI community grows they get their own dedicated streamers.

 

[Zoidberg747]

the majority of the KI tournaments have also been won by Jwong who we all know is a god at FGs

but yes sabre is too stronk.

So if Sabre is too stronk can you really shit on Injustice for Superman being too stronk for a while?

 

[GhosT]

Even MK got a lot more stream time then what KI is currently getting.

I may not personally find it very fun to watch right now, but others do, so i'm pretty confused why it's getting snubbed so hard.

Hopefully as the KI community grows they get their own dedicated streamers.

It was never going to take off like a rocket due to the fact that not many people have cash to shell out on a new console.

You cant ignore the fact regardless of what kind of stream time it gets, its doing that while being console exclusive, new, and on a console people couldnt afford, or chose not to purchase. Obviously if it was on a 7 year old console and a multi console game it would have a bigger following.

Nobody is wrong for criticizing the game as far as where it was when it was realeased, some of the other arguments are being made without taking a lot of other things into consideration.

 

[Greenk4]

So you're criteria for a complete fighting game is the number of characters? Sorry MK1, guess you aren't complete

Leave MK1 out of this, its the greatest cartridge demo of all time from back in the day lol

 

[M2Dave]

You dont calculate a console price into what it costs to play a game, eithr you want a console or not. News flash, KI will actually load and allow you to play WITHOUT plugging in a 200$ TEstick.. we all know you play pad anyway wtf you cryin for?

Funny cuz MK was a red headed stepchild of streaming, yet this is an issue?

Last thing. I do realize ppl need to leave injusice players alone. You can have that one.

Can you use a PS2 pad, for example? Are there any functional and reliable converters? I would not use the X-Box One pad to play this game competitively.

What are you talking about? Mortal Kombat 9 was always streamed. I know that VSM and Console Combat had record viewership because of MK9.

You Killer Instinct players are blinded by fanaticism. The game is clearly hurt by X-Box One's price. You need the console to play the game. If price were not an issue, more than 25 players would actually play the game at major tournaments.

 

[KiD INsAnitY]

Again, the game may be, but it doesn't matter because the way/reason it was released are terrible and make it not worth it for the most consumers.

Its not a full game.. hence the $40 price tag ... DH did the best they could its MS fault and it's still a great game under the circumstances the way it was released was not terrible it did pretty good.

 

[arde5643]

Even MK got a lot more stream time then what KI is currently getting.

I may not personally find it very fun to watch right now, but others do, so i'm pretty confused why it's getting snubbed so hard.

Hopefully as the KI community grows they get their own dedicated streamers.

It's the lack of casuals and hype players bringing more casuals to the game. If the game had been in the 360 as well, then it might have been a different story.

It's a game that aims at a very small market with very limited selling point - it's got no mindshare at all currently.

 

[Zoidberg747]

KI with 6 Characters is about as deep as Injustice with a Full roster. By design there is a lot of shit keeping the game fresh with only a few characters.

Its also going to suffer because not only is the game new, the console is new.

If your hating on KI because you dont like the game thats fair. If your hating on it because your a console fanboy or your just broke, that means your just a mark.

If you are saying the game is crusty or stale from 6 characters. You definately havent played the game and need to go work on your jump ins and 20% unblockable setups.

Edit: For zoidberg, the Saberwulf deal is a result of how simple yet effective he is. Similar to superman days on injustice. people are starting to figure him out. Noway around 6 characters, I get the dissapointment there, different strokes for dif folks i know.

I dont care what game someone likes, its just annoying to hear criticism knowing a good majority of it is coming from gamers who have yet to play it.

Like I said, I enter it at tourneys but cannot play otherwise. My point was Sabrewulf is like Superman was, so it isnt really fair to compare the two games in that way.

 

[Hellbringer]

Man i love ki so much, can't wait for fulgore.
Ps. I wish ppl would look beyond how much characters are in the game, or how much u have to pay to get it.(ya'll would probably grinding your ass off playing KI if it wasnt xbox1 exclusif, lbsh) Now everyone wants atleast 30 characters, and in the end they still got bodied by ares after the game is out so long because they dont know the mu...
For me Quality>Quantity.

pps. Did you see fulgore teaser??!!omg!!