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THTB

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
I got a chance to play with Master D, m2dave and P2W yesterday, using some of the offensive strats discussed here, like b1 staggers and the trait LM oki setups.

b1 stagger sucks ass. And I mean really, really sucks. Like, this shit is only working online or once offline vs someone with decent reactions. I don't see this being a long-term reliable option. Master D hadn't really been playing for some time, and wasn't falling for it, and b13 CRP was barely working as well.

Trait LM oki is good offline, though. :)
 
Crimson Panther

Crimson Panther

Noob
THTB said:
I got a chance to play with Master D, m2dave and P2W yesterday, using some of the offensive strats discussed here, like b1 staggers and the trait LM oki setups.

b1 stagger sucks ass. And I mean really, really sucks. Like, this shit is only working online or once offline vs someone with decent reactions. I don't see this being a long-term reliable option. Master D hadn't really been playing for some time, and wasn't falling for it, and b13 CRP was barely working as well.

Trait LM oki is good offline, though. :)
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Lantern is pretty gimmicky right now. The abiguous F3 is being figured out as well.
 
THTB

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
NRF Crimson Panther said:
Lantern is pretty gimmicky right now. The abiguous F3 is being figured out as well.
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Obviously, just going in and doing ambiguous f3s isn't going to net you wins. It's other things he can do, though. It's not just a left-right mixup, you can make it an up-down one, as well, use other things for ambiguous crossups, or MB b3/f3 their wakeups if you feel they'll use a wakeup you can do so with.

I don't really think it's gimmicky...it's oki pressure that they have to either react very well to, or guess right to deal with, and even then, GL won't be killed for guessing wrong most of the time.
 
F

Fred Marvel

It's actually Freddy Marvel
CptXecution said:
Turbine is great for air dashing characters and is probably the best tool to chip out a pixel to win a round/match.
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yeah there are a few matchups where it can be useful i just meant overall

NRF Crimson Panther said:
Lantern is pretty gimmicky right now. The abiguous F3 is being figured out as well.
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not sure if gimmicky is the right word but i agree, lantern is one of those characters who is amazing if they arent prepared but to anyone ho knows the matchup he's not scary at all, imo once everyone figures him out it will be agreed that he isnt even top 10 in the game
 
Crimson Panther

Crimson Panther

Noob
THTB said:
Obviously, just going in and doing ambiguous f3s isn't going to net you wins. It's other things he can do, though. It's not just a left-right mixup, you can make it an up-down one, as well, use other things for ambiguous crossups, or MB b3/f3 their wakeups if you feel they'll use a wakeup you can do so with.

I don't really think it's gimmicky...it's oki pressure that they have to either react very well to, or guess right to deal with, and even then, GL won't be killed for guessing wrong most of the time.
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He's feeling gimmicky as of late to me. B1 staggers are starting to be figured out like you said. The ambiguous F3 is being figured out. The ambiguous JI3 after LM MB is getting figured out. F2 shenanigans aren't working well. The OTG isn't working. B13 CRP.

I mean in a lot of those cases Lantern should be left at advantage, but even with that he doesn't have that strong of pressure to continue. He's starting to feel, at least to me, not as good as he once was.
 
Orochi

Orochi

Scorpion Scrub
NRF Crimson Panther said:
He's feeling gimmicky as of late to me. B1 staggers are starting to be figured out like you said. The ambiguous F3 is being figured out. The ambiguous JI3 after LM MB is getting figured out. F2 shenanigans aren't working well. The OTG isn't working. B13 CRP.

I mean in a lot of those cases Lantern should be left at advantage, but even with that he doesn't have that strong of pressure to continue. He's starting to feel, at least to me, not as good as he once was.
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He's better actually with the new trait mix-up, he's a mix-up king just can't be too predictable with your patterns, a 9f low and i think its a 19f overhead? + you can mix in grabs for when they block too much you can't mess with that lol. Amazing character just his bad match-ups is what gets him.
 
Crimson Panther

Crimson Panther

Noob
Orochi said:
He's better actually with the new trait mix-up, he's a mix-up king just can't be too predictable with your patterns, a 9f low and i think its a 19f overhead? + you can mix in grabs for when they block too much you can't mess with that lol. Amazing character just his bad match-ups is what gets him.
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Trait mix up will get figured out.
 
THTB

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
Trait LM mixup will be figured out, at least on the ambiguous f3. The only problem is that there's other things he can do that's viable in the mixup. It will be figured out, but it will never be a gimmicky option. It has an added bonus of being a meterless option.

People are starting to figure out how to at least contain him, and he might drop out of a lot of top 10s, but I don't think his matchups will ever get to a point where he's not viable or anything.
 
Ashenar

Ashenar

Just a slightly above average player.....
THTB said:
Trait LM mixup will be figured out, at least on the ambiguous f3. The only problem is that there's other things he can do that's viable in the mixup. It will be figured out, but it will never be a gimmicky option. It has an added bonus of being a meterless option.

People are starting to figure out how to at least contain him, and he might drop out of a lot of top 10s, but I don't think his matchups will ever get to a point where he's not viable or anything.
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I am just curious how this character is going to ever be figured out. I don't see him losing any footing at all.
 
THTB

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
Ashenar said:
I am just curious how this character is going to ever be figured out. I don't see him losing any footing at all.
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I see him losing a little steam, but even then, he'd still be 100% viable. Right now his only matchup that I think will stay 3-7 against him is Zatanna, who is also probably going to be a specialist type of character and as a result, be rare to come across. The rest are just 4-6s, and if they don't get better, they're still very doable matchups. Hell, Zatanna is doable, just hard as hell.
 
Ashenar

Ashenar

Just a slightly above average player.....
I think zatanna offline will be much more forgiving then online. I also have different timings for trait mix up that I've been running on people. Honestly Zatanna is a 3-7 maybe 4-6 offline. The 4-6 match ups he has really come down to just out playing people. The character has damage and B1/ LM is some of the strongest whiff punishment in this game. I think of this character as if he where Cody in SF with some strong mix up game.
 
Flumpor

Flumpor

Noob
JI3 Combo
One bar:
JI3, LM-MB, B3, JI 3, 223, LM -40% No Trait

I prefer this combo to the other since the LM-MB has a much more generous timing and all around I find this combo easier to learn as a beginner in fighting games.
Damage is the same anyways and both cost 1 bar.
 
hully

hully

Noob
Here some trait-less f3 cross up setups you can do mid screen using turbine



the timing to get the cross up is a bitch. its dependent on the spacing when you hit the f3 before the turbine and how high the opponent is. ive gotten the timing down well enough on specific setups and can hit it 70%-80% of the time.

ill record other setups later as well as some casual sets next time we get together.
 
Crimson Panther

Crimson Panther

Noob
hully said:
Here some trait-less f3 cross up setups you can do mid screen using turbine



the timing to get the cross up is a bitch. its dependent on the spacing when you hit the f3 before the turbine and how high the opponent is. ive gotten the timing down well enough on specific setups and can hit it 70%-80% of the time.

ill record other setups later as well as some casual sets next time we get together.
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Been doing this for a while but never posted it up. Good videos.
 
Groove Heaven

Groove Heaven

Jobber-baron
So my roommate (who doesn't play FGs) was messing around on my stick just hitting shit as a joke and she accidentally bounce-canceled out of trait, which I didn't know you could do.

I think this could have applications if you have a lot of meter and mess up a hit-confirm. If you do b13~trait, and they try to punish on reaction, a bounce cancel f3 will beat any d1 or advancing normals like Superman's f2. I haven't tested stuff like Aquaman's d2, that might beat it if they know you're gonna do the f3.

Probably not that useful, but maybe something to think about.
 
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