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Sabrewulf is OP

MILE_HIGH_CLUB

FREEDOM'S LABORATORY
Best rushdown in the game is what dat dog is all about if it makes you more salty he has a infinite block string on glacius.

It hurts me to say this because I have always been the type of player that wants games to evolve and get figured out before calling for nerfs but the dog is kinda scrubby right now.

If you have been watching the Cdjr or Fchamp stream you know what I am talking about, 17+ level SW players don't even let you move at all.


Check out the first match, the dude is not even good and he complety destroyed AcidGlow's Jago.... And this is not even close to what I have experienced and witnessed!

So what do you guys think?
HE NEEDS IT?
Lol energy.... Nothing more annoying than jago s wind kicks from full screen & his shadow moves frame traps . That's ass I block I should be rewarded not put in multiple block strings
 

SAREDODEVIL

Kombatant
glacius players = sabre is fine
Still too much is going unpunished and being under utilized (especially shadow counter) to say any one char is OP. Im sure many glacius players say sadira is op while sabre is fine. Right now people are just saying a char is OP if they are having trouble against them
cdjr
 
sabre need his dash with more recovery frames, BOOM FIXED
It's already 21 frames.

If it becomes just a few frames longer, Sabrewulf loses his only chance to actually cross up the opponent with the dash.

In order to get a TRUE 50/50 with the dash, the Wulf player needs to do a throw, then walk back to a distance where it is unclear whether Wulf will dash in front or behind, and then dash. Between the walking and the dash, it's only just fast enough to get in the meaty attack on wakeup.

That's the only time dash works as a true cross up. Every other time, just react to the 21 frame animation.
 

Lok0xXxSn1per5

I'll Freeze Those Salty Tears!
Lol energy.... Nothing more annoying than jago s wind kicks from full screen & his shadow moves frame traps . That's ass I block I should be rewarded not put in multiple block strings
I have no problem vs Jagos windkick, with glacius I use shadow puddle punch, most of the times I use LP hail and release it as soon as windkick hits me and get a full combo. I can also Jump back MK.

With SW you can punish HK Windkick with shadow regged edge cause windkick is -5 on block.

My point is there are options, I find jago very strong but not bc of the windkick but thats a whole new OP thread lol.
 

MILE_HIGH_CLUB

FREEDOM'S LABORATORY
I have no problem vs Jagos windkick, with glacius I use shadow puddle punch, most of the times I use LP hail and release it as soon as windkick hits me and get a full combo. I can also Jump back MK.

With SW you can punish HK Windkick with shadow regged edge cause windkick is -5 on block.

My point is there are options, I find jago very strong but not bc of the windkick but thats a whole new OP thread lol.
And orchid lol,I like her because you really have to out smart the cast with her . With Glacius I'm not even worried about the Jago army.
 

BDMao88

Filthy Casual
Still too much is going unpunished and being under utilized (especially shadow counter) to say any one char is OP. Im sure many glacius players say sadira is op while sabre is fine. Right now people are just saying a char is OP if they are having trouble against them
COMBO BREAKER!
NEXT
Easiest Tournament EVO.

SW isn't even OP, I read he loses to Glacius.

I don't even have the game and I'm beating bitches.
 

Lok0xXxSn1per5

I'll Freeze Those Salty Tears!
And orchid lol,I like her because you really have to out smart the cast with her . With Glacius I'm not even worried about the Jago army.
Did you know that she has thefastest walk speed in the game.

Second highest damage ouput.

One of the best air normals in the game+ an air throw which you can follow up with a small juggle.

Safe full screen slide that goes under fireballs and gets a full combo.

An overhead move, a crouching MK and a special move that ignores croching hits.

High-low mix ups that while are a little bit slow have a good range and can be made safe with IM, etc etc?
 

VOR

Apprentice
Check out the first match!? How many times did Acid Glow get locked out? And how many of Jago's frame traps or resets did he do? c'mon now.
 

SonicBoomBrad

Best Doomsday in the world
I CAN'T DEAL WITH MIX UPS, CHARACTER TOO GUD.

Any rushdown character with this combo system is going to be broken because you're constantly put into a 50/50 where the risk/reward for more damage is extremely in the attackers favor.

Im sure many glacius players say sadira is op while sabre is fine.
I honestly don't even know where people get that Sadira beats Glacius. You can literally just hold a hail and j. roundhouse and she can never touch you as long as you space yourself right. Once you knock her down you can just meaty her to death with hail setups into unblockables. The only time it sucks is when she gets instinct, and all you have to do then is run away and block for like 10 seconds, which is what you have to do against pretty much everyone else all the time anyway.
 

NightwingDayZero

Truth, justice and the American way.
I watched AcidGlow make a bunch of serious "no" decisions in the first match. The first one was trying to throw a fireball at Saberwulf, the second one was swinging after a blocked wind kick. Also, he didn't shadow counter any of Saberwolf's block strings and didn't optimize his damage after lock outs.

AcidGlow may be a great player, but this isn't him playing at his best.

Also, Dr. Dogg is a smart Wolf.

Just because this is TYM doesn't mean we need to make a bunch of shitty "NERF PLS" threads.
 

BDMao88

Filthy Casual
Did you know that she has thefastest walk speed in the game.

Second highest damage ouput.

One of the best air normals in the game+ an air throw which you can follow up with a small juggle.

Safe full screen slide that goes under fireballs and gets a full combo.

An overhead move, a crouching MK and a special move that ignores croching hits.

High-low mix ups that while are a little bit slow have a good range and can be made safe with IM, etc etc?
GGs bud, great fight! I guess I'm in losers...Thunder scrubs here I come.
 
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Lok0xXxSn1per5

I'll Freeze Those Salty Tears!
Also, the arrogance of some players to think that they've figured the game out no more than 6 weeks after launch is astounding.
I just took a huge dump and I have a ton of energy, you really want to do this?

trufenix I love how tymer scrubs like to act as if capcom kids dont bitch about nerfs/buffs like the rest of us do. Just take a look at how many updates SF4 has had... Umvc3... People still asking for an update to lol.
 

NightwingDayZero

Truth, justice and the American way.
the youtube vid isnt the best example, just go and check out fchamp or Cdjr play a high rank SW then hit us up bro.
I don't need to watch online wolf players, I play SuperArcade's FRQ Steeve regularly and I've played Maximilian. As a Jago player - you have to shadow counter his magic series and you have to get in that ass. You have to maul Wolf and outright disrespect him. Like fighting Rufus in AE. This is the advice that Jwong gives everyone and if you implement it; you'll find success.

I'm getting really tired of the defeatist attitude in the FGC.

From this point forward any further comments from me will be along the lines of "Saberwolf is OP as fuck. Everything he has is an infinite. No point trying. One character game."
 

BDMao88

Filthy Casual
I just took a huge dump and I have a ton of energy, you really want to do this?

trufenix I love how tymer scrubs like to act as if capcom kids dont bitch about nerfs/buffs like the rest of us do. Just take a look at how many updates SF4 has had... Umvc3... People still asking for an update to lol.
Smoothest tournament...Theory fighters show up on time.

Is this a Major?
 
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EMPRESS_SunFire

Regina George of discord
SonicBoomBrad you just reseted the bracket bro.

I also dont think Sadira beats glacius.

AspyxiaDyslexia- I appreciate the "like" bro I really do.

NightwingDayZero you are right, the youtube vid isnt the best example, just go and check out fchamp or Cdjr play a high rank SW then hit us up bro.
Lol aww, that's because i'm like a compulsive liker, i like everything i see :( I don't even play the game to talk about this lol