What decides exactly if a tournament is a major?

[Pig Of The Hut]

A major to me is one that appeals to multiple communities and gets at least 30+ in smaller communities like anime, 3d and old school games, and have 200+ for capcom. they have people travel for them, sometimes international or from opposite ends of the country. this would include big E events, SCR, NCR, Final Round, UFGT, CEO and tournaments like that. Those events attract people from all over the world and players of all different games. If an events draws over 50 for non capcom or NRS, its hard to say its not a major.

A regional is one that fails to appeal to multiple communities in that regard and dont have as many people traveling, maybe for one game. There usually is a clear focus on one game and a lesser focus on others, and it tends to be whatever the region's most popular game is. DTN would be an example of that, where players are traveling for Street Fighter and Marvel because they are popular in NY, but is getting less recognition by players of other games like Injustice, 3d or anime. Honestly DTN looks like its going to be pretty whack if you aren't a capcom player. KIT i would consider to be a regional as well, since it seems like mostly southeast US players going from what I understand (i could be wrong).

Kit has entries coming from the following states for Inj
Texas
Fl
Georgia
Ohio
Illinois
NY
Theo from California
Tenn
Virginia
Alabama

 

[PTG Slayer]

Lol, well in that case SCR wasn't really a major since it was majority same couple of states as comp. Likewise with NEC last year when it was mainly NY/NJ with just a couple of guys travelling from WC, almost no one from the Midwest etc.

I think it's really rare to get 30 of the best players from all different states; usually the attendance at majors for our games is heavily concentrated from one area unless it's a special time where guys resolve to make it like NEC this year or EVO.

Note that 30 was just an example. I also forgot to mention consistency. The attendance/prizes have to for the most part, put up decent numbers consistently as well. So by definition, no one person can just call a tournament a "Major". It's heavily dependent on how well received it is by the community on a national level.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

Well it is called so cal REGIONALS

Dannnng shots fired... Hahah

 

[EdFig81]

DTN is not a major. Its a regional. KiT is a Major for sure. FF is a major for Injustice.

Competition level I think is what constitutes a tournament being a major. Not the amount of entrants.

You can have 80 scrubs at a 100 man tournament doesn't mean its major. Its quality over quantity.

To make a tournament major you need good comp from multiple areas of the country.

For a tournament to be a major you have to beat someone who is major to have a major win thus being a major.

Has your opinion changed from the past? I remember when you said other tournmaents that weren't considered majors in MK9 but had all the top players were not majors in tweets etc. in your opinion.

I am not trying to troll you just courious if your opinion has changed and why? Don't get me wrong i agree with your view in regards to the competion etc 100 %. I will go as far to say a WWE comparision as pherleece stated. A major is like a Raw/Smack down. A local/regional is a house show. HOwever i do think that some regionals are STACKED at times due to other people visiting etc..

 

[RM Jonnitti]

Kit has entries coming from the following states for Inj
Texas
Fl
Georgia
Ohio
Illinois
NY
Theo from California
Tenn
Virginia
Alabama

yes but thats one game. similar thing can be said about DTN regarding capcom. idk if you can call something a major for one game. after all, its the fighting game community. one game doesnt determine a major or not

 

[Braindead]

What decides if a tournament is a major or not is my presence in that tournament.
And since I have never ever been to any tournament, we can safely decide that all your EVOs and CEOs and NECs are mere child's play.

 

[Vagrant]

What decides if a tournament is a major or not is my presence in that tournament.
And since I have never ever been to any tournament, we can safely decide that all your EVOs and CEOs and NECs are mere child's play.

/thread

 

[rev0lver]

Lol, well in that case SCR wasn't really a major since it was majority same couple of states as comp. Likewise with NEC last year when it was mainly NY/NJ with just a couple of guys travelling from WC, almost no one from the Midwest etc.

I think it's really rare to get 30 of the best players from all different states; usually the attendance at majors for our games is heavily concentrated from one area unless it's a special time where guys resolve to make it like NEC this year or EVO.

wait do you mean NEC 2013 or 2012? both had a lot from out of state

 

[GRieVeR_SKeiTH]

Easy. Every tournament with a Tom vs Pig MM is an NRS major

 

[Ashenar]

64+ Man Pool of players with at least 2-3 previous top 8 players attending from previous tournaments.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

wait do you mean NEC 2013 or 2012? both had a lot from out of state

Almost all the top players at NEC 2012 were from the NY/NJ general area.

 

[rev0lver]

Almost all the top players at NEC 2012 were from the NY/NJ general area.

NEC 2012 had a bunch from SoCal, Chicago, Houston, Florida, Mid-Atlantic, Canada. I think the Atlanta people were the only big scene who didn't show up for whatever reason.

 

[pherleece]

Wow, that's fucking pathetic. And I'm not talking about DTN.

I would love for you to elaborate since you obviously know me well enough to call me pathetic

 

[CrimsonShadow]

NEC 2012 had a bunch from SoCal, Chicago, Houston, Florida, Mid-Atlantic, Canada. I think the Atlanta people were the only big scene who didn't show up for whatever reason.

The best players in the regions?

I was responding to Slayer's comment that it's a major if the best players from a bunch of areas show up. Aside from Tyrant, most of the best players from their area didn't come and the best players there were overwhelmingly from 1 area. It was like a NE showcase

Very different from this year where you had half the NEC Top 8 coming from West Coast, Florida, Midwest.

 

[rev0lver]

The best players in the region?

Slayer said it's a major if the best players from a bunch of areas show up. Aside from Tyrant, most of the best players from their area didn't come and the best players there were overwhelmingly from 1 area.

wait what

it had tyrant, krayzie, 16bit, soonk, han, showtime, noobe, somecubanguy, big d, khaotik, blackula, zaf, jer, etc

 

[CrimsonShadow]

wait what

it had tyrant, krayzie, 16bit, soonk, han, showtime, noobe, somecubanguy, big d, khaotik, blackula, zaf, jer, etc

You're just listing players.. He specifically said the best players in that area. So that'd be like WoundCowboy, PerfectLegend, Forever King, Dizzy, xSmokex, MIT/DJT etc (around that time). Other than Bit and Tyrant you didn't have that level of representation at NEC last year from outside the tournament area. This year was another story and it showed in the representation of Top 8.

 

[rev0lver]

You're just listing players.. He specifically said the best players in that area. So that'd be like WoundCowboy, PerfectLegend, Forever King, Dizzy, xSmokex etc. Other than Bit and Tyrant you didn't have that level of representation at NEC last year. This year was another story and it showed in the representation of Top 8.

how is woundcowboy the best player in socal?

and forever king might've been there. i don't remember really.

florida, houston, mid-atlantic, and socal probably had their best then.

and tom brady wherever the fuck he was from at that time

this year's nec probably had less people travel overall tbh. other than a good group from socal it was like 1 or 2 people from other areas.

 

[RM Jonnitti]

you guys are being very short sighted in this topic. most of you guys are only looking at your own game and some of them are looking even shorter with who the top players were. keep in mind some areas dont even have top players.

 

[pherleece]

wait what

it had tyrant, krayzie, 16bit, soonk, han, showtime, noobe, somecubanguy, big d, khaotik, blackula, zaf, jer, etc

What about tony t and mono pr . both international

 

[rev0lver]

What about tony t and mono pr . both international

yeah that too. and the other Australian guy whos name i forget

 

[pherleece]

yeah that too. and the other Australian guy whos name i forget

I was gonna edit him in but tym mobile is ass. Nmegabyte

 

[CrimsonShadow]

how is woundcowboy the best player in socal?

and forever king might've been there. i don't remember really.

florida, houston, mid-atlantic, and socal probably had their best then.

and tom brady wherever the fuck he was from at that time

this year's nec probably had less people travel overall tbh

Tom's from Jersey, Wound's from NorCal. And Wound was def. one of Cali's best MK players by late 2012/early 2013

This year, Cali sent most of the best they had to offer to NEC. Theo, Ducky, Tyrant, Slayer etc. Those guys are some of the absolute top players in the game. PPJ is a top-tier IGAU player etc.

 

[rev0lver]

Tom's from Jersey, Wound's from NorCal. And Wound was def. one of Cali's best MK players by late 2012/early 2013

tom's from whoevers house he was living at before it

and you can't really mix in norcal with socal just because it's the same state. the distance is like grouping PL in with NY. but that still doesn't respond to my point. NEC had the best players from some regions, and top players from others.

 

[RiBBz22]

Shouldn't major status just be given to events that have proven themselves to have a lot of prestige? I don't think competition alone should completely dictate it. For example, how can you can an event that is happening for the first time a major just because a bunch of good players happen to show up for it. I have always thought it was kind of weird to want to try and call like half of the tournaments "majors".

 

[CrimsonShadow]

tom's from whoevers house he was living at before it

and you can't really mix in norcal with socal just because it's the same state. the distance is like grouping PL in with NY. but that still doesn't respond to my point. NEC had the best players from some regions, and top players from others.

I didn't mix, I listed wound for NorCal specifically, Tyrant for SoCal