What decides exactly if a tournament is a major?

[Pig Of The Hut]

EGGXI asked a question myself and other have discussed on the phone

KIT imo is definitely an inj major w the crew that is coming to it.

DTN so far seems so little in hype, no one is going to to travel for it

So why is DTN a major ad kit not solidified as a major?

Lets get this cleared up asap because many wonder the same thing

My opinion?

64 entries
50% out of town guests

I can be convinced either way

 

[16 Bit]

Good question. There is no set answer because it changes through the life of a game. No one would demand a MK major in 2013 needs 64 entrants.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Good question. There is no set answer because it changes through the life of a game. No one would demand a MK major in 2013 needs 64 entrants.

Mk would be 24-32 IMO

 

[Tom Brady]

DTN is a major.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

DTN is a major.

Why

 

[EGGXI]

DTN is a major.

Could you kind of elaborate? Like I don't meant to shit on DTN or anything, it's just that it's new and it's being called a Major but it feels like it might just be an NY regional, at least for Injustice... I don't know who has registered or is going but it doesn't seem like many are traveling for it?

EDIT: Like is it the size/attendance/prize money/sponsors? What makes a Major?

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Could you kind of elaborate? Like I don't meant to shit on DTN or anything, it's just that it's new and it's being called a Major but it feels like it might just be an NY regional, at least for Injustice... I don't know who has registered or is going but it doesn't seem like many are traveling for it?

Tom Brady

Yea Tom no disrespect but explain what constitutes a major

 

[Vagrant]

Defend the north is a major really? Or just considered one for IGAU?

 

[ShadowBeatz]

Yea Tom no disrespect but explain what constitutes a major

Root, major third, perfect fifth

Ar-har-har

 

[EGGXI]

Defend the north is a major really? Or just considered one for IGAU?

When it was announced it was referred to as a major tournament, and it had qualifiers etc. which is kinda what prompted the question.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Root, major third, perfect fifth

Ar-har-har

First seventh third sixth

Shout outs to 13 th chords

 

[16 Bit]

Why would Defend the North be a major but not Frosty Faustings or KIT?

 

[NightwingDayZero]

I would consider a major any tournament that grants seeding points towards EVO.

DTN, FF, KIT - I consider these all to be high profile tournaments, but unless they grant seeding points they're not majors. Seeding points are worth more than money in the sense that they provide preferential placement at EVO - which is supposed to be "the big one."

Anything else just leaves the door wide open for interpretation.

Win Frosty? Great. Win DTN? Great. But what have you really won? A couple hundred bucks and an ego boost.

Without seeding points there really isn't much of a point to these tournaments outside of some bragging rights and a way to pay off that stupid plane ticket.

Just my $0.02

 

[EGGXI]

I would consider a major any tournament that grants seeding points towards EVO.

Which then begs the question, what is the criteria for being a tournament that grants seeding points? The people who run it? Essentially then a tournaments value is determined by EVO organizers?

 

[Perfect Legend]

DTN is not a major. Its a regional. KiT is a Major for sure. FF is a major for Injustice.

Competition level I think is what constitutes a tournament being a major. Not the amount of entrants.

You can have 80 scrubs at a 100 man tournament doesn't mean its major. Its quality over quantity.

To make a tournament major you need good comp from multiple areas of the country.

For a tournament to be a major you have to beat someone who is major to have a major win thus being a major.

 

[Perfect Legend]

Which then begs the question, what is the criteria for being a tournament that grants seeding points? The people who run it? Essentially then a tournaments value is determined by EVO organizers?

Seeding points doesn't really mean anything I don't know why anyone ever mentions seeding points anymore.

 

[Cossner]

For a tournament to be a major you have to beat someone who is major to have a major win thus being a major.

 

[rev0lver]

Why would Defend the North be a major but not Frosty Faustings or KIT?

how do you even know yet

what if rebelo shows up

 

[16 Bit]

I would consider a major any tournament that grants seeding points towards EVO.

DTN, FF, KIT - I consider these all to be high profile tournaments, but unless they grant seeding points they're not majors. Seeding points are worth more than money in the sense that they provide preferential placement at EVO - which is supposed to be "the big one."

Anything else just leaves the door wide open for interpretation.

Win Frosty? Great. Win DTN? Great. But what have you really won? A couple hundred bucks and an ego boost.

Without seeding points there really isn't much of a point to these tournaments outside of some bragging rights and a way to pay off that stupid plane ticket.

Just my $0.02

This makes no sense because then there's a giant gap of time with no majors. This means The Fall Classic and NEC were not majors. I don't think anyone is going to be comfortable calling NCR a major but not NEC.

It also makes no sense to treat every tournament equally for each game. A tournament may be mid sized somewhat important tournament for Capcom games but be set in a region without much of a scene and no traveling for NRS games.

 

[EGGXI]

It's just a bit weird. We place a great deal of emphasis on winning Majors in the general considerations of a player's ability. KTP just did their player of 2013 award and they were talking about who won which Major and winning EVO etc., and you hear people talking all the time about how locals/regionals don't count or whatever.

If it's EVO seeded stuff that matters, then technically EVO is the only thing that matters, which is sort of fair, but a year is long time to go without other data we can use to quantify what makes a good player. At the end of the day I guess "major" is really just a word, but we definitely give that word weight in terms of what it means to win a "major".

 

[NightwingDayZero]

GGA 16 Bit

Why can't we just be content with calling TFC and NEC high profile tournaments? Do we really need to throw the word "major" out there so liberally?

What's wrong with having a giant gap of no majors? It only grants more weight to the few majors there are and honestly. For example - look at what happened between TFC and NEC. Huge gap and it destroyed everyone's preconceived ideas of who would make top 8.

Does it matter that there are fewer majors? I'm 100% not trolling, I'm actually curious as to why we need to be labeling some tournaments and not others based on seemingly vastly variable criteria.

 

[16 Bit]

GGA 16 Bit

Why can't we just be content with calling TFC and NEC high profile tournaments? Do we really need to throw the word "major" out there so liberally?

What's wrong with having a giant gap of no majors? It only grants more weight to the few majors there are and honestly. For example - look at what happened between TFC and NEC. Huge gap and it destroyed everyone's preconceived ideas of who would make top 8.

Does it matter that there are fewer majors? I'm 100% not trolling, I'm actually curious as to why we need to be labeling some tournaments and not others based on seemingly vastly variable criteria.

Because then people ask "what is the definition of a high profile tournament". There will always be labels for tournaments. Prestige matters.

 

[THTB]

Why not just call these tournaments majors and leave the whole discussion alone...?

 

[16 Bit]

Why not just call these tournaments majors and leave the whole discussion alone...?

Because prestige matters. If we don't label tournaments then they lose meaning.

 

[Krayzie]

I wish there was only a few majors. There's more meaning to them that way.

I miss MLG...