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AcidGlow

AcidGlow

ULTRAAA COMBOOO!!!
So youtube is hammering down on ppl that use game soundtracks/music/cutscenes in their videos. This might be a big problem for Fighting Game channels who upload their matches. The big culprit here is not the game developer but the musicians/artists who make video game music to put into a game. Some developers are retracting ID claims if you try to dispute these claims. Capcom and Ubisoft are 2 that I know of that have made statements that they are not targetting gamer channels to steal money from their videos.
So with this new system, it looks like video game footage will stay on youtube but, to be safe, you will have to mute the video game soundtrack in the audio options and remove any cutscene footage. Having a video with only "sound effects" may not seem as "entertaining" but it's something we all might have to deal with if the VGM from fighting games is also a target. You might get an ID claim from an unknown name you never heard of and that might be because there are Third Party companies that actually sell Video Game Music on CDs or through a digital source. If it's paid for, that might be why you also get a "Matched Third Party ID Claim". Alot of big channels have been hit really hard with this in 2 days. No one is immune to this rule.
 
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AcidGlow

AcidGlow

ULTRAAA COMBOOO!!!
Spinky said:
Fuck YouTube. Seriously. First the constant unnecessary changes, then Google+, now this. The site is nothing like it used to be.
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Back in 2007-2009 it was the film production companies hammering down on Youtube for all the movie footage being uploaded by users. Now that isn't so bad cause Youtube has come to an agreement that some movie footage is "alright for reviews" but still kinda risky. Now this system in 2013 is mainly meant to target music that is licensed for a video game.
 
NRF CharlieMurphy

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
Enuma Elish said:
YouTube strikes again with this BS. I really hope one day there will be a revolution and the masses will change their main video entertainment source.
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YouTube is only enforcing what someone has brought up to them.

More like....... eff the people who think they're VIDEO GAME MUSIC is actually selling big dollars across the US.
 
TheSpore

TheSpore

Nurgle Chaos God of Death and Disease
Iv'e been oding alot of digging into this and its becoming abig deal that even the big channels such as Angry Joe are having issues, its not the copyright owners nor for the most part. The Claim flags are occurring due to an algorithm in place that scans for things. This vid form Angry Joe on this post explains it all in pretty good detail. He is having his videos flagged for copyright claims on things are very much not owned by anyone including an interview he recorded and conducted with the devlopers of Tomb Raider. As had been mentioned before many of the big name pubs are striking back, but its mainly just the fact that their lil auto detection system is not functioning the way it should be.

 
Tony at Home

Tony at Home

Master
Nothing too serious to worry about- it hurts game developers to not have their games shown on youtube- its free advertising. AcidGlow and Maximillian helped make KI more popular- its not like the devs would purposely hit them with a claim...

The one exception I see is Nintendo. For whatever reason this company flips out when "Let's Play" videos show Super Mario Galaxy or when Twitch streams Super Smash Bros tournaments....
 
ryublaze

ryublaze

Noob
Youtube's lame now. It's been lame for the past 4-5 years with all these constant changes. I liked it back when they had their customizable profile layouts but then they changed it so now everyone's profile is bland and it's hard to navigate through a user's videos and playlists. They changed their home page and now it's filled with a bunch of Recommended for You videos and other random vids that I don't want to watch. Then they implemented Google+ and now whenever I want to log in I have to enter a specific e-mail they gave me with a bunch of numbers and I can't change it. It's also hard to see my alerts and messages now. It's lame.
 
dotunderscore

dotunderscore

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If you use any music during your stream for sound check (e.g. Shock it flagged the music "Nightwish-Ghost Love Score (Live at Hartwall Arena)" when the NEC stream came on)

lame
 
LiangHuBBB

LiangHuBBB

Warrior
1 question
Does a claim automatically results in a copyright strike?
If so, that would basically mean 3 claims = 3 copyright strikes = your channel is gone?
Because that doesnt seem the case since I have seen some big youtube LPers with 1 million subs who got 100+ claims by now, but I see their channels are still there.
Can anyone clear this up whats with these so called claims?
thx for the heads up
 
NRF CharlieMurphy

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
Again

the music stuff isn't really YouTube

The layouts and such are.... and integrations with other things. But the tagging comes from other companies. At least understand that and point your anger toward the right entity.
 
Tony at Home

Tony at Home

Master
LiangHuBBB said:
1 question
Does a claim automatically results in a copyright strike?
If so, that would basically mean 3 claims = 3 copyright strikes = your channel is gone?
Because that doesnt seem the case since I have seen some big youtube LPers with 1 million subs who got 100+ claims by now, but I see their channels are still there.
Can anyone clear this up whats with these so called claims?
thx for the heads up
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A claim does not always translate into a copyright strike- it just means that they will investigate the claim. If they find the claim was valid, then it becomes a copyright strike.

It's not a copyright strike, until the claim is successful and the video is removed as a result.

Also, a video can be blocked, but still not result in a copyright strike if it was the result of one of youtube's automatic "Content ID matches" instead of a Copyright claim. In this case, they're using the Content ID Match System, so videos automatically blocked as a result of it won't count as strikes against the uploader.
 
AcidGlow

AcidGlow

ULTRAAA COMBOOO!!!
LiangHuBBB said:
1 question
Does a claim automatically results in a copyright strike?
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Content ID Match claims are more like "warnings". Think of them as "hey bud, your video has music or video that belongs to someone else. You can keep your vid but you won't get money from it anymore".
The person who owns the content that is matched will have the option to block your video, give you a strike or leave the video up (so they can get money for it).

You have the option to dispute the claim but only once. If you try a second time and it's rejected by the owner a second time, then you will get a strike on your channel. So after you have a matched third party ID claim, it's up to you how you want to approach it. Most ppl are mad cause their video reviews/montages are overloaded with so many songs from games that they have so many claims on one video and it's impossible to dispute all those claims on 1 video.
 
Saboteur-6

Saboteur-6

Filthy Casual
NRF CharlieMurphy said:
Again

the music stuff isn't really YouTube

The layouts and such are.... and integrations with other things. But the tagging comes from other companies. At least understand that and point your anger toward the right entity.
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Watch the Angry Joe clip, he indicates otherwise. Short version is that even if a game company DOESN'T pursue a claim the YouTube ID system will flag it regardless.
The really problem here is that YouTube has a monopoly on the media format. They really need a viable competitor.
 
TheSpore

TheSpore

Nurgle Chaos God of Death and Disease
Saboteur-6 said:
Watch the Angry Joe clip, he indicates otherwise. Short version is that even if a game company DOESN'T pursue a claim the YouTube ID system will flag it regardless.
The really problem here is that YouTube has a monopoly on the media format. They really need a viable competitor.
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Yeah it seems the main issue is the bot that is auto detecting these things and obviously the system needs more work done to level it out. The good thing is that many of the publishers out there are writing up new policies to help fight back at this insanity. I did a lil more looking into this and found that apparent the reason this is happening is due to many of the network partners are not policing the videos themselves and now You Tube is basically playing CYA on their site to avoid potentially being sued. The system is mainly to catch those fuck tards that upload full length movies and audio books, or full albums of music and monetizing them, but its back firing and working about as well as DRM stops piracy.
 
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