General/Other Gun Shot

[PLAYING TO WIN]

what if u could delay high gun shot MB like sinestro or zod? think this would help?

 

[Vagrant]

Its a high so it wouldn't be quite as effective. Sinestros are mids from full screen.

Still would help catch dashes if you could delay though.

Would definitely help. I wouldn't say he needs it though he already has that concept with low gun.

 

[Killphil]

what if u could delay high gun shot MB like sinestro or zod? think this would help?

I don't play DS, but of course this would help. It would at worst cause hesitation in your opponent, and like all things in life, hesitation gets you killed. They would be forced to respect the option whenever you have meter. I don't like the delay in meter burning that some characters have, but it is what it is now. I used to catch people all the time with DD delayed venom, so I'm not above the tools either. x.x

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

Its a high so it wouldn't be quite as effective. Sinestros are mids from full screen.

Still would help catch dashes if you could delay though.

Would definitely help. I wouldn't say he needs it though he already has that concept with low gun.

play a really good zod yet? he can delay the gun so you ALWAYS have to respect the MB. it would keep people form freely dashing in after the current version and closing space or it will keep them from punishing it. im telling you... this would allow DS to have a way to create/keep space

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

the low gun shot can be delayed mildly... go look at sinestro FB or zod gun... u have forever to delay it.

imo sinestro's mb fear is the best projectile in the game.

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

I don't play DS, but of course this would help. It would at worse cause hesitation in your opponent, and like all things in life, hesitation gets you killed. They would be forced to respect the option whenever you have meter. I don't like the delay in meter burning that some characters have, but it is what it is now. I used to catch people all the time with DD delayed venom, so I'm not above the tools either. x.x

exactly

 

[xInfra Deadx]

You barely can, but it doesn't feel like a delay much like what Sinestro could do.

 

[ll Nooby ll]

green lanterns is pretty good cause of that same principal, and it's a full combo/+ on block.

 

[Vagrant]

play a really good zod yet? he can delay the gun so you ALWAYS have to respect the MB. it would keep people form freely dashing in after the current version and closing space or it will keep them from punishing it. im telling you... this would allow DS to have a way to create/keep space

Yeah... He can do this with low shots.

The concept is you do lowshots they try to dash you delay the meterburn and it hits them while they're trying to dash.

eventually they catch on and look for that late meter burn and this gives you a chance to do regular low shot and then another lowshot or a dash in or whatever instead of the late meterburn that they're respecting.

 

[RM Truth]

Yeah... He can do this with low shots.

The concept is you do lowshots they try to dash you delay the meterburn and it hits them while they're trying to dash.

eventually they catch on and look for that late meter burn and this gives you a chance to do regular low shot and then another lowshot or a dash in or whatever instead of the late meterburn that they're respecting.

I certainly have problems with Deathstrokes that mix up MB and non MB. I try to time my dash so that I can block another gunshot afterwards then get blown up my the last 2 hits of MB. Then when I respect the MB, and they dont do it. If I try to dash, I get tagged in the face by another gunshot.

 

[G4S Silent Jay]

That would actually be pretty godlike and give him back basically the zoning he lost with the recovery added to his guns. Because the respect they need togive gauses enough hesitation for, in practice, the guns to be safe

 

[drywall]

This and dash cancelling quick shots. If DS can't use guns as they were intended then his gunplay could at least be made more versatile or interesting.

 

[RM Jonnitti]

imo that shit would be mega cheap lol

 

[RYX]

I'd rather have a better CQC because DS was never intended to be a Zoner, but this would be helpful at least as far as mind games go, something he doesn't really have much of

 

[RM Jonnitti]

DS was never intended to be a Zoner

why do you think he wasn't inteded to be a zoner? as soon as i saw his moveset i know right away hes going to be lame as hell

 

[RYX]

why do you think he wasn't inteded to be a zoner? as soon as i saw his moveset i know right away hes going to be lame as hell

I've always played him as a hybrid

He doesn't have good keep away. He's a better counter zoner than a zoner, basically.

 

[RM Jonnitti]

I've always played him as a hybrid

He doesn't have good keep away. He's a better counter zoner than a zoner, basically.

hes basically a shoto

 

[RYX]

hes basically a shoto

I can't draw the comparison, I haven't played SF (yet), sorry.

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

It'd be too good. People would be too scared to move all the time. Zod's doesn't travel as fast and doesn't stay on screen for long and it's already really good.

Plus you can already delay LowGS and it's ok.

 

[Skkra]

I wouldn't exactly call him a shoto... more like Ken than Ryu maybe, where Ken has excellent control of vertical space (sword flip) but only a mediocre fireball for horizontal control (gunshots).

The guns never seemed to be for zoning in my opinion. Cyborg's fireball surely is, but gunshots are high. They're a punishment and impatience tool. Mostly Deathstroke seems like a hybrid. His f+3 is godlike... he has good pressure thanks for a few strings with huge +frames. In the corner you can f+3 --> f+2,3 --> 3,2~sword spin as a chip string!

 

[drywall]

He has some mind games but they should give him more because he is Slade.