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General/Other Joker still sucks

Who cares about the joker
This guy needs 2 be banned

Anyways I just hope that they buff him
Because I can feel that the patch they released was the last patch they will release to igau
Off topic Qwark28
U didn't log in to ps3 this week why?
I was going 2 give u something

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Qwark28

Joker waiting room
This guy needs 2 be banned

Anyways I just hope that they buff him
Because I can feel that the patch they released was the last patch they will release to igau
Off topic Qwark28
U didn't log in to ps3 this week why?
I was going 2 give u something

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I never log to PS3 anymore. Why?
 

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
They want Joker to be the new Superman...

They want...

1. An overhead that goes into a combo.

2. A projectile that cannot be ducked.

3. Better dash speed.

4. Keep all his corner bs AS IS.

G...T...F...O
No.

EITHER an overhead into a combo with 1 bar OR a gunshot with changed frame data and no pushback.

Dash speed for getting in vs zoners

All corner bs is blockable, there is no such thing as unblockable in this game.

Even with those buffs he couldn't turn a 4-6 into 7-3...
 
No.

EITHER an overhead into a combo with 1 bar OR a gunshot with changed frame data and no pushback.

Dash speed for getting in vs zoners

All corner bs is blockable, there is no such thing as unblockable in this game.

Even with those buffs he couldn't turn a 4-6 into 7-3...

and I want Superman's super to be an unblockable throw....

NO
 

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
Joker players should just play Harley. She's pretty much a better Joker in every way in this game.
 

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
No.

EITHER an overhead into a combo with 1 bar OR a gunshot with changed frame data and no pushback.

Dash speed for getting in vs zoners

All corner bs is blockable, there is no such thing as unblockable in this game.

Even with those buffs he couldn't turn a 4-6 into 7-3...
All corner BS blockable? Completely so? Yeah, because he doesn't have any inescapable corner traps. Nope. Not this character.
 

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
and I want Superman's super to be an unblockable throw....

NO
And what would you suggest? I like you Tom, you're an experienced and knowledgeable player but you have not player Joker's worst matchups, you can't even compare this to MK9, once Joker gets past zoning he then has to deal with much better footsies, he has no good way to punish backdashes and anti airs easily beat him out of the air considering his bad MUs ( Sinestro, Aquaman, GL etc.)

Even REO said he wouldn't ever play this character if he wanted to win...
 

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
All corner BS blockable? Completely so? Yeah, because he doesn't have any inescapable corner traps. Nope. Not this character.
There is nothing unblockable in this game, if 2 hits colide at the same time in the case of an overhead/low the player takes the damage of both but does not get launched.
 

StevoSuprem0

I'm gonna make this skill gap... disappear.
All corner BS blockable? Completely so? Yeah, because he doesn't have any inescapable corner traps. Nope. Not this character.
No, he absolutely does not based on the mechanics of the game. It may be difficult to block, but even if an overhead and low hit simultaneously to the frame, one will get priority. It's about as broken as an ambiguous jump in once you have experience against it. And alot of characters can wakeup out of it pretty easy.
 

StevoSuprem0

I'm gonna make this skill gap... disappear.
And what would you suggest? I like you Tom, you're an experienced and knowledgeable player but you have not player Joker's worst matchups, you can't even compare this to MK9, once Joker gets past zoning he then has to deal with much better footsies, he has no good way to punish backdashes and anti airs easily beat him out of the air considering his bad MUs ( Sinestro, Aquaman, GL etc.)

Even REO said he wouldn't ever play this character if he wanted to win...
Exactly. Tom Brady, stop throwing out these bullshit comments and provide some actual input on what you think he needs, because he's still pretty clearly the worst character in the game and has some major weaknesses that are tough to get around.
 

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
No need to get offensive.

I just find it sad that I made this thread for people to see that despite all the balancing attempts Joker remains the same shitty character against 1/4th of the cast, which are all you see in a tournament setting, be treated with " that's OP, just change your main, NRS won't listen, Joker 2 stronk."
 

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
There will always be a "worse character" in fighting games. I wish this community would realize this. Also...and I know this sounds completely out of the box, but hear me out...

...Has it occurred to anyone....


...That it is SUPPOSED to be hard to get in on a zoner? That maybe...just MAAAAAAAAYBE....that's the whole idea? I mean...if you did make someone like Joker able to easily overcome strong zoning...doesn't that invalidate zoners and thus require them to receive better buffs to keep people out?
 

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
And why is parry bad? Because it requires reads/reactions? Or does it not parry the things its supposed to?
 
Exactly. Tom Brady, stop throwing out these bullshit comments and provide some actual input on what you think he needs, because he's still pretty clearly the worst character in the game and has some major weaknesses that are tough to get around.

Joker is NOT the worst lol. Absolutely not...

He can place top 8 on a semi consistent basis, say.. 3 out of 7 majors he can place top 8.

Sub-Zero was INFINITELY worse, having way worse MU's and I placed top 8 and most majors.
 

StevoSuprem0

I'm gonna make this skill gap... disappear.
And why is parry bad? Because it requires reads/reactions? Or does it not parry the things its supposed to?
It's worse than the other parries in the game because it has way less active frames and cannot be used on wakeup/as a reversal, and the trait buff is useless, so it makes using it not worth it in most cases.
 

StevoSuprem0

I'm gonna make this skill gap... disappear.
Joker is NOT the worst lol. Absolutely not...

He can place top 8 on a semi consistent basis, say.. 3 out of 7 majors he can place top 8.

Sub-Zero was INFINITELY worse, having way worse MU's and I placed top 8 and most majors.
When has Joker placed top 8? I haven't seen that... genuinely curious.
 

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
There will always be a "worse character" in fighting games. I wish this community would realize this. Also...and I know this sounds completely out of the box, but hear me out...

...Has it occurred to anyone....


...That it is SUPPOSED to be hard to get in on a zoner? That maybe...just MAAAAAAAAYBE....that's the whole idea? I mean...if you did make someone like Joker able to easily overcome strong zoning...doesn't that invalidate zoners and thus require them to receive better buffs to keep people out?
Zoners are supposed to allow people to get in by nature, every character can get in on someone else, Joker can't
 

Minh Giang

aka ChrsitianDMG on Stream
Joker is NOT the worst lol. Absolutely not...

He can place top 8 on a semi consistent basis, say.. 3 out of 7 majors he can place top 8.

Sub-Zero was INFINITELY worse, having way worse MU's and I placed top 8 and most majors.
Tom play Joker at tournaments plz :joker:. btw when's another Aquaman vids?
 

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
Joker is NOT the worst lol. Absolutely not...

He can place top 8 on a semi consistent basis, say.. 3 out of 7 majors he can place top 8.

Sub-Zero was INFINITELY worse, having way worse MU's and I placed top 8 and most majors.
Subzero was infinitely worse in a game where he didn't have 7 3-7s with one of them being close to unwinnable ( Zod ) and stages being able to actually help and without interactibles and trait?

If you're gonna say something, say it. Why is Joker not the worst in the game? What does he have vs the matchups I mentioned and how would you buff him?
 
When has Joker placed top 8? I haven't seen that... genuinely curious.

Because the Joker forum is the "Can't" forum..

This is the "Woe is me" forum..

Use what he has, become cheaper...

I played a lot of Jokers and I am waaaaaaay more familiar w/Joker they they were with Aquaman. As Joker players this is the issue. Knowing you have bad MU's means you absolutely cannot afford to have your opponent be more familiar with your character then you are with theirs. This is your main problem..
 

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
Oh, and if we're talking about Joker being able to place top 8 in 50% of majors and not the player than I believe we have a problem/