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Breaking Bad (SPOILERS!)

jaym7018

Noob
Eh, you love to hear yourself speak but nothing you ever say actually has any content. Throw that pony tail back and stroke your neck beard after you press enter on the next reply.
Just in these last few pages there have been Walt supporters who have come to the realization my interpretation of the character is correct. I can only assume you noticed this and decided to act by derailing the thread.
 

SimSim

Norwegian Lab-work Champion
Funny you percieve me as narcissistic and condemn me for it but put Walter White on a pedastal. There is nothing close minded about my views on Walter White or the show. You saying that is laughable considering my perception of the character is exactly how the creator of the character has stated he wants him to be percieved.
Have I ever said that I like Walt more than any other character in this show? Have I ever said I am team Walt? See, this is where your thought process fails: "How can anyone think different than me? If someone disagrees with my opinions they are stupid and they see the world just as black and white as myself just from the opposite side". You fail to consider a world where people are able to put themselves in to the situation of different people at the same time, and thereby realizing that the world is not black and white.

But by all means.. Keep provoking or being close minded, because you are either getting the reactions that you want, or you are blissfully ignorant of how you are the most simple minded person in this discussion.
 

jaym7018

Noob
About the only thing I may ever agree with Jay on is that people make way too much of this supposed personality split between Walt/Heisenberg which is think is a largely fan concocted believe. Walt always had a potetnial darkness about him like most people, and it only took the right circumstances to unleash that.

However I think Walt's phone call is being very much misinterpreted. To Walt the money is not only his life work, it was what he was passing on to his family. He didn't want a mansion, summer home, fast cars and tropical vacations. He just wanted to take care of them. If he loses the money he loses everything and that means everything he did was for nothing.

The money is all he has left, his son hates him and won't take the only thing Walt can really offer him now.

I think you have a very negative view of people in general Jay if you can't see the good buried in Walt's psyche. It's there among the ego and the other flaws he has, and every character has on the show.

Go to church if you want to cleanse evil, stop inventing it in fictional characters so you can be the ultimate judge of make believe morality. It's a little much.
It is fan concocted he isnt jekyll and hyde. It isnt some multiple personality disorder. Its just who he is.
 

jaym7018

Noob
And how do i have a negative view on people in general. Walt is a bastard there is no disputing that. The people you should be saying that to are the people in this very topic trying justify Walts actions while at the same time saying fuck skylar and Walt Jr for not supporting him. My view on people is as it should be good people like hank skylar and walt jr dont deserve the hardships that bad people like Walt brought to their doorstep.
 

jaym7018

Noob
Have I ever said that I like Walt more than any other character in this show? Have I ever said I am team Walt? See, this is where your thought process fails: "How can anyone think different than me? If someone disagrees with my opinions they are stupid and they see the world just as black and white as myself just from the opposite side". You fail to consider a world where people are able to put themselves in to the situation of different people at the same time, and thereby realizing that the world is not black and white.

But by all means.. Keep provoking or being close minded, because you are either getting the reactions that you want, or you are blissfully ignorant of how you are the most simple minded person in this discussion.
If anyone can put themselves in Walts situation and rationalize his decisions then those people are as broken as he is.
 

jaym7018

Noob
What is this I am seeing?! Did you actually just refer to Walt as broken and not pure evil? There might be hope for you yet!
Im using the word broken as a synonym for evil. Evil means profoundly immoral it isnt some fictional word reserved for Jafar the Sorceror or Ursala the Witch or the Devil. If you dont think Walt is profoundly immoral then i dont know what to tell you.
 

SimSim

Norwegian Lab-work Champion
Im using the word broken as a synonym for evil. Evil means profoundly immoral it isnt some fictional word reserved for Jafar the Sorceror or Ursala the Witch or the Devil. If you dont think Walt is profoundly immoral then i dont know what to tell you.
Immoral; yes, profoundly; no.
 

jaym7018

Noob
Immoral; yes, profoundly; no.
He poisoned a child in order to manipulate the mind of a person many in this topic claim he cares about. He agreed that the murder of another child was the right thing to do. If those arent 2 examples of profoundly immoral behavior i dont know what is.
 

LEGEND

YES!
i just want to say this is the most entertaining thread i've ever lurked

If anyone can put themselves in Walts situation and rationalize his decisions then those people are as broken as he is.
as ridiculous as alot of the thing you have said in this thread are, i actually agree (seriously have no idea if you're trolling half the time but 10/10 on entertainment factor)
 

LionHeart V1

You will feel deaths cold embrace
Last Sunday's episode was really heart breaking

With them killing Brock's mother and Jesse having to watch it happen
And Walt no longer accepted by his own family

Makes me a Sad Panda
I think the saddest moment on this entire show might be when Walt asks Robert Forster if he would give his money to his family. "wanna cut the cards." ......"no." That no was just so sad.
 

LionHeart V1

You will feel deaths cold embrace
No, i watch walking dead but i dont love it. All my favorite comedies are coming back american horror story and justified in the winter which is the actual best show on television. I leave the blogging on reddit to the simpletons who glorify Heisenberg and say "Yo bitch" all the time.
Yo Bitch
 

jaym7018

Noob
I think the saddest moment on this entire show might be when Walt asks Robert Forster if he would give his money to his family. "wanna cut the cards." ......"no." That no was just so sad.
"Youre the smartest man i ever met but to stupid to see he made his decision 10 minutes ago" that was the saddest moment.
 

LionHeart V1

You will feel deaths cold embrace
"Youre the smartest man i ever met but to stupid to see he made his decision 10 minutes ago" that was the saddest moment.
yea that was a sad one too. but i'm talking about like making me feel defeated and there is no hope, that no one cares. Everything about that scene was just miserable and depressing.
 

LionHeart V1

You will feel deaths cold embrace
i just want to say this is the most entertaining thread i've ever lurked


as ridiculous as alot of the thing you have said in this thread are, i actually agree (seriously have no idea if you're trolling half the time but 10/10 on entertainment factor)
Well all the other TYM threads that going on right now are boring as hell.
 

jaym7018

Noob
I have no doubt in my mind. You probably hoped that Walt would just drop dead in that moment too, so Forster could take his money.
Him dieing during the walk back to his shack after the phone call and watching the tv interview would have been a great finale. Freezing out in the cold Jack Torrance style.
 

LionHeart V1

You will feel deaths cold embrace
Him dieing during the walk back to his shack after the phone call and watching the tv interview would have been a great finale. Freezing out in the cold Jack Torrance style.
that would be sad and terrible ending. so many unresolved issues. I will not accept any other ending other than Walt teaming up with skinny pete and badger and storming the nazi compound like the 3 musketeers. Then Walt goes to grey matter and sets off an atomic bomb teaching gretchen and elliott a lesson. No one crosses Heisenberg.
 

jaym7018

Noob
that would be sad and terrible ending. so many unresolved issues. I will not accept any other ending other than Walt teaming up with skinny pete and badger and storming the nazi compound like the 3 musketeers. Then Walt goes to grey matter and sets off an atomic bomb teaching gretchen and elliott a lesson. No one crosses Heisenberg.
Walt doesnt even know badger and skinny petes names. Fuck him. I hope Walt goes to Grey Matter and John Cena is the security guard and right before he can pull out his ( i have a small penis) machine gun cena shoots him in the face with a tazer subdues him does the you cant see me taunt and calls the cops.
 

LionHeart V1

You will feel deaths cold embrace
Walt doesnt even know badger and skinny petes names. Fuck him. I hope Walt goes to Grey Matter and John Cena is the security guard and right before he can pull out his ( i have a small penis) machine gun cena shoots him in the face with a tazer subdues him does the you cant see me taunt and calls the cops.
Lol Super cena and his 5 moves of doom would be in a barrel to Belize already. 10-0 match up for Walt.
 

jaym7018

Noob
Lol Super cena and his 5 moves of doom would be in a barrel to Belize already. 10-0 match up for Walt.
Clearly you didnt see the cinematic masterpiece that was The Marine. You know what Walt is to Cena ? Nothing but odds, and all Cena does is overcome the odds.
 

A New Angel Is Advent

mutton basher
I apologize in advance for this pointless post but after reading an ongoing debate, boredom has prompted my thoughts on the fundamentals of breaking bad:
At the beginning till now Walt was inherently bad with pretenses of being good. Jessie was the polar opposite: he wanted to be perceived as bad but wasn't capable of acting on it. He feels remorse and guilt because of this. Walt is not capable of feeling guilt, so his public mask is fabricated into a caring person. Walt is not evil by his own standards. He has his own code of honor about providing for his family, but like all inherently evil characters, his sense of honor is warped. So he is doing the right thing based on these standards. However the series ends, a satisfactory end for Walt will not be that happy.
 

jaym7018

Noob
I apologize in advance for this pointless post but after reading an ongoing debate, boredom has prompted my thoughts on the fundamentals of breaking bad:
At the beginning till now Walt was inherently bad with pretenses of being good. Jessie was the polar opposite: he wanted to be perceived as bad but wasn't capable of acting on it. He feels remorse and guilt because of this. Walt is not capable of feeling guilt, so his public mask is fabricated into a caring person. Walt is not evil by his own standards. He has his own code of honor about providing for his family, but like all inherently evil characters, his sense of honor is warped. So he is doing the right thing based on these standards. However the series ends, a satisfactory end for Walt will not be that happy.
In the history of evil people none of them were evil by their own standards.