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[A F0xy Grampa]

I troll when I say he is ok or decent, I know he is top 5. But in all honesty I don't believe he is top 3 and I don't think he is OP as people say

There also things to think about like stage selection, Batman on Gotham Alley should never lose to anybody.

 

[godlessmode]

I honestly don't think Batman is that hard to fight, I beat every other Batman player I play with or without Batman

Not weighing in on the ranking of Batman (although he is undoubtedly top 5). But, by being an expert at a character, a player tends to also learn that characters weaknesses. Since Batman is your main, you have more exposure to what holes he has and what he doesn't than other players. Beating other, probably less informed, Batman players generally doesn't reflect the quality of the character, but instead reflects the difference in match-up knowledge between you and your opponent.

At best it would be a correlation, but in FGs it's very common to see character experts beat their character due to depth of knowledge.

 

[ForeverKing]

There also things to think about like stage selection, Batman on Gotham Alley should never lose to anybody.

I have beaten Batman players on Gotham City before. It doesn't give him that much advantage. I think his best stage is Atlantis anyways

 

[CrimsonShadow]

I'm sucky ass #18 on that list lol. Once you add those 3 tournaments to the list I would probably top 5. Did you just like give up on fixing it pretty much?

I'm waiting for the results of one more tournament.

 

[16 Bit]

Man, you still didn't even add UFGT9 EVO2013 or SummerJam7 to your MKI rankings lol. That's more important than this Batman argument

I AGREE. I've done well at UFGT, CEO, EVO and VXG since it stopped being updated and I'm stuck at 11. Outrageous.

 

[xKhaoTik]

There also things to think about like stage selection, Batman on Gotham Alley should never lose to anybody.

Batman on Gotham Alley is absolutely retarded. He becomes the best in the game without a doubt.

AK Reno Racks made me a believer

 

[@MylesWright_]

Can't pushblock a keepaway batman , can't whiff punish him without risk when he has a trait out , just to say a few things his trait does

Trade with him to make him lose trait then.
Your acting as if you need to be pressuring batman while his trait is active, and when he doesn't have trait his free literally.
His trait pressure isn't even really that much. he doesn't have a 50/50, he has a low, a cross-up and a throw that's going to be teched

 

[ForeverKing]

Trade with him to make him lose trait then.
Your acting as if you need to be pressuring batman while his trait is active, and when he doesn't have trait his free literally.
His trait pressure isn't even really that much. he doesn't have a 50/50, he has a low, a cross-up and a throw that's going to be teched

See, this guy knows what he is talking about

 

[haketh]

Anytime Myles is aggreeing with you you might wanna rethink some of your position.

 

[coolwhip]

Im the training partner of the only other batman to have tournament results. So I should know Batmans pros & cons just as well as any other proper Batman.

Darth Arma, REO, FOREVER KING and PL all have tournament results with Batman. Glue is phenomenal, and a true innovator, but he's not the "only other Batman" to have tourney results.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

No offense to Pig, but the fact that he lost to two Sinestro players just seems like poetic justice to me.

There are two -three Sinestros, I never get the MU exp and I don't enjoy using the character

It's fine, I just need to learn it

 

[coolwhip]

There also things to think about like stage selection, Batman on Gotham Alley should never lose to anybody.

This is true.

 

[FrozenG3oX]

lmao, you play a character that can punish -1 moves dude.

you really hate 'em bats, don't ya ?

 

[ColdBoreMK23]

But TOMMMMM, YOU PLAY AQUAAAAMAAANNNNN.

That still resonates through my mind from the Kryptonite Council. LMFAO.


I broke my back... It's spinal.

 

[Mosp]

...but it won't Zod's push for example...

 

[ForeverKing]

Damnnnnnnnn BLOWN UP!

lol

 

[ForeverKing]

Darth Arma, REO, FOREVER KING and PL all have tournament results with Batman. Glue is phenomenal, and a true innovator, but he's not the "only other Batman" to have tourney results.

You forgot about Nightmare SF, I heard he was the best

 

[RM Truth]

Wait, so are you telling me that the frame data in the movelist is incorrect?

 

[Crathen]

Trade with him to make him lose trait then.
Your acting as if you need to be pressuring batman while his trait is active, and when he doesn't have trait his free literally.
His trait pressure isn't even really that much. he doesn't have a 50/50, he has a low, a cross-up and a throw that's going to be teched

Not everyone has the luxury of a fast projectile with enough recovery and damage to keep up trading with trait and batarangs , he can always bait a projectile when he has 2/3 bats and punish with trait+grapple , if you're reacting to batarangs to trade he can get away or closer to you depending on what he wants , point is he's getting his trait back in no time and you can't stop him from it.

3 bats + interactable = you're going to get hit one way or the other.

Double jump to avoid interactables with splash damage.

Huge range on +on block b3.

Trait cancel pressure has shannenigans but atm you can see how well it works in tournaments , infamous b2xxtrait b11 / b23 mixup?

Hard knockdowns on AA grapple into corner f3 / crossup mixups , good meterless and 1 bar damage and can convert into combos from anything.

Yes he has a very weak wakeup game but blocking is an option.

I don't get how anyone thinks batman is anything outside top 4 and we all know how dumb the entire top 10 can be.

 

[RM Truth]

Not everyone has the luxury of a fast projectile with enough recovery and damage to keep up trading with trait and batarangs , he can always bait a projectile when he has 2/3 bats and punish with trait+grapple , if you're reacting to batarangs to trade he can get away or closer to you depending on what he wants , point is he's getting his trait back in no time and you can't stop him from it.

3 bats + interactable = you're going to get hit one way or the other.

Double jump to avoid interactables with splash damage.

Huge range on +on block b3.

Trait cancel pressure has shannenigans but atm you can see how well it works in tournaments , infamous b2xxtrait b11 / b23 mixup?

Hard knockdowns on AA grapple into corner f3 / crossup mixups , good meterless and 1 bar damage and can convert into combos from anything.

Yes he has a very weak wakeup game but blocking is an option.

I don't get how anyone thinks batman is anything outside top 4 and we all know how dumb the entire top 10 can be.

No one is saying he's bad, but it comes down to one question. Is he better than x character? Do you really think he's better than Superman, Aquaman, Black Adam, or Wonder Woman?

 

[@MylesWright_]

Not everyone has the luxury of a fast projectile with enough recovery and damage to keep up trading with trait and batarangs , he can always bait a projectile when he has 2/3 bats and punish with trait+grapple , if you're reacting to batarangs to trade he can get away or closer to you depending on what he wants , point is he's getting his trait back in no time and you can't stop him from it.

3 bats + interactable = you're going to get hit one way or the other.

Double jump to avoid interactables with splash damage.

Huge range on +on block b3.

Trait cancel pressure has shannenigans but atm you can see how well it works in tournaments , infamous b2xxtrait b11 / b23 mixup?

Hard knockdowns on AA grapple into corner f3 / crossup mixups , good meterless and 1 bar damage and can convert into combos from anything.

Yes he has a very weak wakeup game but blocking is an option.

I don't get how anyone thinks batman is anything outside top 4 and we all know how dumb the entire top 10 can be.

3 bats + interactable = KF slide or catwoman b3 into combo

Double jump to avoid interactbles with splash damage that you probably weren't throwing to hit him with, but mainly remove his option of throwing it at you

huge range on a +b3 into his non-existant 50/50

Who isn't fuzzy guarding b11 and b23.

A hard knockdown setup. Lol

His good but you guys overrate him just like you did Killer Frost and are still not learning

 

[Mosp]

Wait, so are you telling me that the frame data in the movelist is incorrect?

Ya but should we really be surprised by that at this point?

 

[RM Truth]

Ya but should we really be surprised by that at this point?

It was sarcasm btw.

 

[Qwark28]

No one is saying he's bad, but it comes down to one question. Is he better than x character? Do you really think he's better than Superman, Aquaman, Black Adam, or Wonder Woman?

superman is top 5 but people still dont wanna deal with blocking zoning lol...

BA has one bad MU, wonderwoman.

 

[Mosp]

It was sarcasm btw.

lol I can tell don't worry.