So i guess that second stream for WNF was a flop.

[Sajam]

THe owrse part about is how people are doing this and saying they'll wait for the patch to come bac, that's not a good way to keep a scene going, it shows people that run events that the scene isn't devoted to the game and their not willing to ride with it.

Yup, I'm willing to bet lots of people are going to come back when the patch drops, lose because they don't play anymore, and then decide the game is whack again.

 

[BehindTheLight]

Yup.


My question is when does this want for things to change stopa dn when do you just play the game for the love of the game and competetion? No matter how balanced the game the majority of players, especially the best are going to be playing the top tier characters. It's gonna happen, the sooner you kids realize that and accept that the better. Their will never be a perfectly balanced fighting game, and never should be. Shit would be boring. And fuck, the balance isn't even that bad in this game, only a few characters you need to run subs for *Welcome to all fighting games, think I'm gonna play ABA in +R and not learn someone for the Justice MU?* and only one character isn't viable at all *Sorry Joker fans*.


How are they rabid eltist? How are they any different from you right now or BehindTheLight hating on another game or scene? And what the fuck do you mean it's not a real fighting game? Shit, now I'm starting to realize what people mean when they view the NRS scene as weak. I've been defending the scene and trying to prove that the scene isn't as weak mentally as people say but altely, people are starting to prove the people that doubt this scene right.

For the record, I am only hating on Tekken because the game is unwatchable. I'm sure it takes skill and its fun for people that are into that, but I think the engine of the game is horrible and I don't like the graphics at all. So when it is on stream, it is soooooooooo boring unless you are really, really into Tekken.

 

[TheTetraSpirit]

Yup.


My question is when does this want for things to change stopa dn when do you just play the game for the love of the game and competetion? No matter how balanced the game the majority of players, especially the best are going to be playing the top tier characters. It's gonna happen, the sooner you kids realize that and accept that the better. Their will never be a perfectly balanced fighting game, and never should be. Shit would be boring. And fuck, the balance isn't even that bad in this game, only a few characters you need to run subs for *Welcome to all fighting games, think I'm gonna play ABA in +R and not learn someone for the Justice MU?* and only one character isn't viable at all *Sorry Joker fans*.


How are they rabid eltist? How are they any different from you right now or BehindTheLight hating on another game or scene? And what the fuck do you mean it's not a real fighting game? Shit, now I'm starting to realize what people mean when they view the NRS scene as weak. I've been defending the scene and trying to prove that the scene isn't as weak mentally as people say but altely, people are starting to prove the people that doubt this scene right.

Where did I act like an elitist? Oh right, I didn't. Never said MK was the best or even implied it.
Also, top characters do not need to be broken/stupid.
As I've said in the past as an example; if Kitana were the best character in MK, AS SHE IS, and none of the characters below her were any different than they are now, would anyone have a problem with that? I highly doubt it.
People don't have a problem with high-tiers. They have a problem with broken shit that clearly shouldn't exist.

Also, you're out of your fucking mind of you think a game shouldn't be as balanced as possible. Please collect your things and head for the door.

And finally, I simply stated that Marvel isn't a real fighting game, which it's not. Literally every other fighter out there now, is, but not Marvel.

 

[Onilordasmodeus]

Lots of people are complaining that us SoCal guys are whining or letting our scene die, but everybody who is posting in this thread, myself, Legend, Krayzie, and Brad our the people who are still showing up week after week even with the problems the game has.

It's not just us who feel this way though. There are 20 other people that decided the game and community wasn't worth supporting and don't come anymore, that's the problem.

If Superman is killing the scene over there, why aren't the players just learning and playing other characters? Why are the players allowing a game that they "like" to die by playing only an "OP/broken" character?

WNF is just a local; a place to have "fun" after all. Why not just play more character at a high level instead of just the "best" one?

 

[haketh]

Yup, I'm willing to bet lots of people are going to come back when the patch drops, lose because they don't play anymore, and then decide the game is whack again.

Yeah, it's gonna be a viscous cycle, but fuck those people.

Also, you're out of your fucking mind of you think a game shouldn't be as balanced as possible. Please collect your things and head for the door.

I never once said that, learn to read. I said no game will ever be perfectly balanced, they can get as close as possible but as long as more than two characters exist it will never be balanced. Closest thing we have is VF5FS which people don't play for some dumbass reason.

And finally, I simply stated that Marvel isn't a real fighting game, which it's not. Literally every other fighter out there now, is, but not Marvel.

How is this not eltist and how does this make any sense? How the fuck is Marvel not a fighting game? Note you're talking to a guy who got started on MVC2 so you best come correct.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Why don't you show NRS the problems you find instead of waiting until the patch is released?

Foot-in-mouth, wow, too late... Can't take back that shit now.


Stop pressing buttons...

Ok I will but im pretty sure its known

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

I do have a weekly similar to WNF. It is not big and surely not popular(I live in Aruba). We max out at about 13 Injustice players. 1 of them is a Superman main. He is also an excellent AE Feilong player. He is a pain to fight every Tuesday night. Knowing that he will be present is no reason for me to not attend.

That the game has issues is a different matter all together and I think we can all agree on that.

Thats great to hear Aruba has a scene like that honestly

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Wow. Just wow.

Ill tag you on the issues im talking about and you can explain to me why they exist

 

[TheTetraSpirit]

Yeah, it's gonna be a viscous cycle, but fuck those people.


I never once said that, learn to read. I said no game will ever be perfectly balanced, they can get as close as possible but as long as more than two characters exist it will never be balanced. Closest thing we have is VF5FS which people don't play for some dumbass reason.


How is this not eltist and how does this make any sense? How the fuck is Marvel not a fighting game? Note you're talking to a guy who got started on MVC2 so you best come correct.

"Their will never be a perfectly balanced fighting game, and never should be."






Direct quote straight from your post. I win. And Marvel is not a real fighting game because it lacks all the basic fundamentals that actually make a fighting game.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

I have to admit the Gif is awesome

 

[ghostwriteous]

I swear threads like these are always on some, "ok guys, let's hold hands and all quit the game together. this will make us happy" tip. Just do it already .

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4

 

[Sajam]

If Superman is killing the scene over there, why aren't the players just learning and playing other characters? Why are the players allowing a game that they "like" to die by playing only an "OP/broken" character?

WNF is just a local; a place to have "fun" after all. Why not just play more character at a high level instead of just the "best" one?

Probably because the Superman players like playing Superman?

We have talked about doing a no Supes/BA tournament plenty of times but nobody wants to do it once Wednesday comes around. Either way, Injustice is a game where it's rewarding to play the brain dead easy and strong characters over exciting and challenging ones, so why should they put in the work when they can win without it?

 

[haketh]

"Their will never be a perfectly balanced fighting game, and never should be."






Direct quote straight from your post. I win. And Marvel is not a real fighting game because it lacks all the basic fundamentals that actually make a fighting game.

Yeah like I said no game should ever be perfectly balanced, because too get that you have to make everyone the same. Once again learn to read.

And I'm still waiting on you to tell me what Marvel is lacking that makes it not a real fighting game. You have spacing, footsies, mixup, combos, mindgames, and all things you need for a fighting game.

 

[TheTetraSpirit]

Yeah like I said no game should ever be perfectly balanced, because too get that you have to make everyone the same. Once again learn to read.

And I'm still waiting on you to tell me what Marvel is lacking that makes it not a real fighting game. You have spacing, footsies, mixup, combos, mindgames, and all things you need for a fighting game.

Refer to my previous post. Variety and balance can co-exist. Simply don't make any blatantly retarded characters and voila.
And in the event one gets made, liberal nerfing will help.

And I can watch SF, Tekken, KoF, BB, P4A, etc. and I can see all of the spacing, poking, punishing, etc., but when I watch Marvel all I see are two 5-year-old mashing buttons.
There's something to be said about the game when none of the usual traits of a fighter can be observed.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Does this affect your love for MK9 as well? Because it was kind of the same situation, maybe worse at the start.

Good question

I loved MK9 through its entire run and it was an awesome experience and probably the coolest time ive had in terms of video games meeting new people, traveling, hanging out, etc etc etc that I would normally not have done. I give full credit to NRS for this because they made a real solid product that in the end though had flaws that if early on we found could have been bigger issues

The problems I have with Injustice are the decision making, design of characters, inexcusable glitches, same wonky ass corners we had in MK9 but worse in Injustice and to top it off someone found a way when patching a game to crash everyone's xbox, unreal.

I dont understand how this is accepted as "ok"

I bet you my car that corner dash shit will never be fixed
^^^This is an ok bet for me because i need a new one

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Why don't you show NRS the problems you find instead of waiting until the patch is released?

Foot-in-mouth, wow, too late... Can't take back that shit now.


Stop pressing buttons...

They know what they are

 

[haketh]

Good question

I loved MK9 through its entire run and it was an awesome experience and probably the coolest time ive had in terms of video games meeting new people, traveling, hanging out, etc etc etc that I would normally not have done. I give full credit to NRS for this because they made a real solid product that in the end though had flaws that if early on we found could have been bigger issues

The problems I have with Injustice are the decision making, design of characters, inexcusable glitches, same wonky ass corners we had in MK9 but worse in Injustice and to top it off someone found a way when patching a game to crash everyone's xbox, unreal.

I dont understand how this is accepted as "ok"

I bet you my car that corner dash shit will never be fixed
^^^This is an ok bet for me because i need a new one

What is the corner dash trick?

Refer to my previous post. Variety and balance can co-exist. Simply don't make any blatantly retarded characters and voila.
And in the event one gets made, liberal nerfing will help.

And I can watch SF, Tekken, KoF, BB, P4A, etc. and I can see all of the spacing, poking, punishing, etc., but when I watch Marvel all I see are two 5-year-old mashing buttons.
There's something to be said about the game when none of the usual traits of a fighter can be observed.

If you can't see any of that in these matches

Yipes vs Sanford Battle of the Strongest
Mixup vs Jmar
Yipes vs Justin vs Sanford FT7

You're fucking blind or have no clue what any of those mean

 

[Rampage254]

Yeah like I said no game should ever be perfectly balanced, because too get that you have to make everyone the same. Once again learn to read.

And I'm still waiting on you to tell me what Marvel is lacking that makes it not a real fighting game. You have spacing, footsies, mixup, combos, mindgames, and all things you need for a fighting game.

That's a stupid thing to say. Don't developers try to make fighting game as balanced as possible? Sure they may never get it right, but why would they be like "Hey, make sure this character completely outclasses this one, because it's a fighting game and shouldn't be balanced." If they went by that, then they would have more of a reason to be lazy when trying to balance out their characters.

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

You are shaking your head huh? You 12 years old or something?

You can't play tekken

you retarded or something?

 

[haketh]

That's a stupid thing to say. Don't developers try to make fighting game as balanced as possible? Sure they may never get it right, but why would they be like "Hey, make sure this character completely outclasses this one, because it's a fighting game and shouldn't be balanced." If they went by that, then they would have more of a reason to be lazy when trying to balance out their characters.

Once again I said perfect balance, not as close as possible.

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

I completely disagree with this statement. I also hate you.

no he's pretty much right

MK community only takes
they do not give.

Jimmypotato TakeAChance

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

What is the corner dash trick?

Konqrr
colt
hecterrific

Will the following be fixed in the patch? If Not then why not?

End any combo in the corner
Dash forward after you know them down
If they choose to wake up after you dashed towards their body laying down they will wake up facing the opposite direction

Example:

- Superman ends combo in corner
- He then, as you're laying down, does a dash towards your body but you still remain next to the wall
- If you did any wake up (green lantern's Gun for example) you will BE SHOOTING INTO THE WALL ALTHOUGH YOU PRESSED THE CORRECT INPUTS TOWARD YOUR OPPONENT
- Now you get blown up for doing a safe wake up


This works with every character in the game vs every wake up. Frost Will slide into the wall, lex will corp charge into the wall, Zod will zc into the wall, etc etc

The only exception to this is double side hitting wakeups like Black Adam's (figures) lightning cage

Doomsday players will eat this for breakfast and the game will sooner or later in the corner become a huge 50/50 "will he glitch me or not glitch me" fest



Also Will this be fixed or is it perceived as a non issue?

Why is it in Street Fighter (back to block games) you can hold back and then press f1 to shoot a sonic boom for example. But in this game thats not the case unless off of block stun. The game registers a blocked attack as if you pressed BACK when they hit you and you blocked THEREFOR if you try and punish a special on block or normal on block with f1, f2, f3 if you have a special with a BF1 BF2 BF3 command you will get that special move instead of the normal you intended to do because again the game registers a blocked attack as the player hitting back.

This gets players blown up for trying to punish attacks quickly, ive started doing nothing but throws now because of this

WHy does Flash b22 whiff on 60% of the Cast? Will this be fixed?

Also Why is Black Adam's lightning considered a Normal? Green Lantern's Mini Gun register as a normal? But Deathstroke's Guns do not? This absolutely makes no sense

 

[haketh]

Ah the reveeral trick, yeah I've known about that for awhile and don't understand why it works at all. It's similiar to what happens whenever Ares does a WU Tele against forward advancing strings.

 

[Matix218]

Konqrr
colt
hecterrific

Will the following be fixed in the patch? If Not then why not?

End any combo in the corner
Dash forward after you know them down
If they choose to wake up after you dashed towards their body laying down they will wake up facing the opposite direction

Example:

- Superman ends combo in corner
- He then, as you're laying down, does a dash towards your body but you still remain next to the wall
- If you did any wake up (green lantern's Gun for example) you will BE SHOOTING INTO THE WALL ALTHOUGH YOU PRESSED THE CORRECT INPUTS TOWARD YOUR OPPONENT
- Now you get blown up for doing a safe wake up


This works with every character in the game vs every wake up. Frost Will slide into the wall, lex will corp charge into the wall, Zod will zc into the wall, etc etc

The only exception to this is double side hitting wakeups like Black Adam's (figures) lightning cage

Doomsday players will eat this for breakfast and the game will sooner or later in the corner become a huge 50/50 "will he glitch me or not glitch me" fest



Also Will this be fixed or is it perceived as a non issue?

Also Why is it in Street Fighter (back to block games) you can hold back and then press f1 to shoot a sonic boom for example. But in this game thats not the case unless off of block stun. The game registers a blocked attack as if you pressed BACK when they hit you and you blocked THEREFOR if you try and punish a special on block or normal on block with f1, f2, f3 if you have a special with a BF1 BF2 BF3 command you will get that special move instead of the normal you intended to do because again the game registers a blocked attack as the player hitting back.

This gets players blown up for trying to punish attacks quickly, ive started doing nothing but throws now because of this

WHy does Flash b22 whiff on 60% of the Cast? Will this be fixed?

Also Why is Black Adam's lightning considered a Normal? Green Lantern's Mini Gun register as a normal? But Deathstroke's Guns do not? This absolutely makes no sense

 

[Matix218]

Wow, the MKC really does hate each other lol