Backdash is not a solid option since it puts you into the korner and is still beat by numerous options. Cleaver, WC, MB Swamp Hands, etc...
Super would be a waste of four bars if he did nothing after D2. It's very high risk.
Hitting him after D2 is not a solid option since he kan kancel it into WC or MB Cleaver or MB Swamp Hands, etc..
It's pretty hard not to be point blank against him when he has MB Swamp Hands to kounter zone, A great dash, and WC which limits your normals. He also doesn't let you jump over him so you kan get out of the korner. It also hits farther than point blank, especially as an Anti-Air.
MB B3/F3 also loses to WC and doesn't punish if he just does D2 by itself.
PS: Being forced to guess after having guessed right is stupid..
Backdash does lose to several options, yes.
Super would be a very small amount of damage for 4 bars.
Do you know if the armor on MB Cleaver & MB Hands activates before you can hit him? Do you know if you can get B1U2 out and become ungrabbable before WC grabss you? Would B1U2 possibly shut down both options?
You're joking right? MB Hands has 1 hit of armor and every projectile you have has 2. If he hits you with MB SH then Grundy spent a bar on a successful read. If you block, he wasted a bar. His dash and anti-air grab are really good, I'll agree with you. WC limits normals. About hitting point blank, let me rephrase that: His normal grab has more horizontal range than D2. Either way it has crap range compared to the rest of his moves.
MB B3/F3 only loses to WC if you let it go immediately. If you hold it you'll armor through Cleaver/WC/Hands though you will have to be careful of Grundy cancelling out of WC.
PPS: You must really hate actual vortex characters like Batgirl & Killer Frost then.
No. I never use grapplers in any game. Not a fan of the play-style at all. But it is a match-up I've played more than any other MU in this game.
Maybe it's because I only play offline, but keeping Grundy out isn't as easy as everyone seems to make it out to be. And me and my teammate who used to main Grundy kind of came to the conclusion that once a defense Pain Chain is completed,the match swings into Grundy's favor since guns do virtually no chip, Grundy can take his time to get in and seriously out damage DS.
You haven't played as Grundy at all, then. This conversation isn't going to go anywhere then. Nice raging with you, see you around.
