Someone has to step up and be honest

[Matix218]

I agree with PLs post completely. IGAU is a well made game but it is boring to watch. MK9 may have its share of flaws but it is exciting to watch. I think MK9 is also more fun to play as well (just my opinion) but as far as watching competitive tournament matches it is no contest. I struggle to watch IGAU streams and I never had that issue with watching MK9. I'd rather watch MK9 casuals than IGAU tournament matches, I'm just being honest.

 

[Tony at Home]

I like how the title is
"Someone HAS to step up and be honest"

"I'm not the whiner this city wants...but i'll be the whiner this city NEEDS"

 

[big_aug]

Play Bane. There are 10-15 of us that main him and have regular discussions about playing him. Even though we all talk about the same things, every one of us plays the character differently and do well with him. There is no "right" way to play him even though many of us think our way is the best way. Every round is a chess match. You have to read your opponent to win. It's not uncommon to take full life bars from opponents in only a matter of seconds. It's also not uncommon to get completely blown up. Every knockdown is a small battle in and of itself.

I've never found the game boring playing as Bane. Actually, don't play Bane. I can hear the cries for nerfs already if more people pick him up and body most of the cast.

 

[Temjiin]

SC is consider boring because of ringouts.

I've literally never heard anyone say this, ever.

 

[ryublaze]

Just a thought, but can you imagine if no one "complained"? It seems like half the community find it fun while the other half find it boring or not as fun. I think it's good that people are expressing their opinions. Maybe this is why NRS made the DLC characters more fun to use (I think I read that earlier in this thread) because they are listening to the community. It seems like everytime someone brings up a problem they're having with the game, people will start trashing him because they see it as "complaining" rather than actual concerns about the game that could potentially harm its lifespan in the tournament scene. At least with these complaints, NRS will know what to fix for MK10 and future games.

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

Perfect Legend why don't u play characters who you LIKE. Or do u only like characters who are good? A few nights ago u invited me and Rebelo to play UMVC3 with you. I wasn't to fast to accept the invite (I didn't at all) I seen u play at VXG u played wolverine Vergil and doom, the most textbook, easy to play, flow charted team in the game. Is that why I didnt play w u? No. I just didn't feel u had passion in the game because ur playin a team ANYONE can play because its GOOD.

What I'm gettin at here, is that you'll find more enjoyment in ANY game if u play what you like, not what WINs. It's YOUR job to make what you like win. If you like scorpion, why drop him after the nerfs? There are still ways to make the character viable. I understand you want to continue to make money, but then why complain the game is boring? Your makin money from it. I work 50 hrs a week in a factory lol.

I'm not scrutinizing you, I'd like to see you succeed. Id also like you to stop moving to the next top tier as soon as the other one gets nerfed. Become an innovator, become the one to make Joker good. Pick him against everyone who isn't sinestro, supes or deathstroke. Be that guy to show scorpion still is viable. Show everyone what you are capable of. This game still has plenty of undiscovered tech, in the next year Lobo and Bane could be easy top 5, u never know.

I'm not tellin u to continue playing either, if u wanna drop the game go ahead lol. That's all I have to say though.

 

[PND i2 Gaug3]

First thing I want to say is Injustice: Gods Among Us is a great game and very well made.....however

For me competitively it is extremely boring. It is so slow paced in comparison to Mortal Kombat. Mortal Kombat is more fun but the balancing is so ridiculous a lot of people don't want to play it. I feel like INJ has a lot of potential but it is so slow on top of that the strategies are all just spam this until it works. There really isn't a mind game behind anything at least not what I am used to. I don't want it to play like a carbon copy of another game but I would like to actually have to use my brain.

Yes I know I am considered one of the top players in the game but I get bored playing this game. Even in MK's practice mode I could sit there just doing stuff but in this game I'm just like ugh. It feels like a chore to play it.

Uk tournament from yesterday

Mustard vs Glue

Foxy vs Justin

Justin vs Glue

Mustard vs Howtoread

Jacky chan vs Foxy

Foxy vs Mustard

http://www.twitch.tv/electronicdojo/b/444144672

Foxy vs Justin

Foxy vs Glue first part

http://www.twitch.tv/electronicdojo/b/444172906

Foxy vs Glue second part

http://www.twitch.tv/electronicdojo/b/444188037

 

[Euphoric]

Why are people taking the opinions of TYM members seriously on whether MOBA is good or not, 95% complain about NRS FGs, Lol.

 

[KDZ]

Regardless of what some people say, I love this game deeply. I never turn my brain off while playing this game, and am constantly thinking, positioning, guessing returns vs possibilities, etc.

I've played a LOT of games at the highest level. A top player in multiple games and genres.

My only caveat is a lot of the community, sometimes, to put it bluntly.
I love most of you guys too, but sometimes you guys can be overbearing.

 

[Justice]

I couldn't disagree more dood.

The way I see it, it's the current metagame holding this game back with characters that have easier to find dirt so they are labelled as "top tier". So rigt now we see a lot of a few characters like Black Adam, Superman, Killer Frost and Green Lantern all the while being stumped when a Harley Quinn can make top 8.

Also what I see happening is people at all levels seem to be afraid to "play the game" like they are still learning it. What I mean by this is that the game is just as fast-paced if not moreso than MK but people just look at the walk speed and say "this shit is slllloooooooowwwww". In tournaments, it looks like people don't want to play a fast game and are intentionally slowing the pace down to where the player wants it (which should be the goal of any tournament player anyway to control the pace of the match). I don't know if it is because the game is still too new (I'm not sure how "new" the game is after 4 months but whatever) or if it is because with so many options to consider players are just afraid to speed up and miss a crucial opportunity that they wouldn't have in a game they have played for 2+ years.

I also think that it could be a little bit of perception on your part Perfect Legend. I mean, you look at characters and think about their viability and their chances to win tournaments. Nothing wrong with that but it doesn't lead to the most fun gameplay experience either. Take for example Scorpion. Remember at EVO when you, Tom and Boon were talking and you were complaining about his nerfs? I walked up and said that he's still good and you gave me one of those "Yeah, whatever dood". All it takes is looking at the character differently. Sure his damage is nothing like it used to be BUT pretty much all of his tools are still intact. Even post patch, I can still scrub people out with J3 xx Tele. One mis-time and I get blown up but that is what fighting games are all about. So let's look at Scorpion differently now. With this new knowledge of post-patch, Scorpion is a character that is designed to get in easily, do moderate damage, get out and repeat. But people just look at the numbers and go "What? Only 25-30%? WTF is this shit! They nerfed him too hard! Fuck Scorpion!"

Anywho, that's getting into a personal rant. The bottom line is, any game is only as much fun as you make it. I still have a blast playing and am enjoying the new concepts that Injustice is bringing to the genre (as frustrating as they may be at times ). All I can say is PL, find a character that you love and pwn with it. The game is still early enough to be able to pick anyone you want and still win tourneys.

 

[Jack White]

Well no shit. Competitive players generally use the dumbest most brain dead characters in the game because they tend to be the best.

Wanna start having fun with this game? Then start maining characters that require even an iota of thinking.

 

[SaJa]

WE NEED A BETTER WALK SPEED !!!!!!!!

Stages are bigger than SF and yet characters moves slower. What a footsy game !

No thread about it ?

Some bottom char would be godlike with better footsies.

 

[GrandMasterson]

I think it's funny how people are saying so many characters in Injustice are braindead. Didn't everyone say the same shit about Ermac at first (Easymac)? Cage? Kenshi? Sonya? Lao? Cyrax?

I don't even like Injustice but you guys are being dumb

 

[Vulcan Hades]

Stop playing braindead characters and you might enjoy the game more.

I also got tired of playing Black Adam a while ago tbh. I'm a setup guy and I like making risky reads but there's just no risk playing BA lol. It's all high reward for no risk and there's no reason to play smart or think hard when you can just backdash from anything and whiff punish, do one combo and sit on your life lead. It's like, there's a way in my head how I'd like to play Black Adam but the game keeps telling me and reminding me that this way is more effective.

So right now I'm looking at playing Zatanna, Hawkgirl/Harley or maybe even Lex.

But I do understand how PL feels. I don't think it's just a matter of what character you play. There's definitely something I don't like about Injustice. I can't really put my finger on it but it does get boring/repetitive after a while.

I think creative and risky play (setups/reads) are heavily discouraged in this game, while playing super simple, lame and safe is encouraged which results in boring Superman/BA finals. And it's almost like having depth, flexibility and a lot of options is irrelevant in Injustice. You just have one true move for each situation and there's never a good reason to try something else.

 

[Grave__Intent]

I'd feel same if I played dd

Reo felt this way when he played batman

Honestly the best characters in terms of intellectual design and fun to play were just released
Most are brain dead

Yes is seems NRS's takes on the most popular characters is they had to make them playable to all the little kids to gain more sales and OP to keep the dough rolling in. For us FGC competitive types it makes the game-play seem boring as we like to get into the mind-set and tactical aspects of the game.

Personally I still have fun trying to find new tech and stuff, but the online annoys me, and watching players like KDZ, Rico Suave', and others play Black Adam and F23man bore the hell out of me. Top Tier character consist of limited and hard to block strings that do ridicules damage with character traits. I seems simply the same pattern over and over with people jockeying for positions and interactables/transitions.

I agree it would be more fun if the universal walk speed was fixed, and certain characters were "Normalized", but with new characters like Zatana on the horizon we can still hold a glimmer of hope.

 

[SaJa]

Stop playing braindead characters and you might enjoy the game more.

I also got tired of playing Black Adam a while ago tbh. I'm a setup guy and I like making risky reads but there's just no risk playing BA lol. It's all high reward for no risk and there's no reason to play smart or think hard when you can just backdash from anything and whiff punish, do one combo and sit on your life lead. It's like, there's a way in my head how I'd like to play Black Adam but the game keeps telling me and reminding me that this way is more effective.

So right now I'm looking at playing Zatanna, Hawkgirl/Harley or maybe even Lex.

But I do understand how PL feels. I don't think it's just a matter of what character you play. There's definitely something I don't like about Injustice. I can't really put my finger on it but it does get boring/repetitive after a while.

I think creative and risky play (setups/reads) are heavily discouraged in this game, while playing super simple, lame and safe is encouraged which results in boring Superman/BA finals. And it's almost like having depth, flexibility and a lot of options is irrelevant in Injustice. You just have one true move for each situation and there's never a good reason to try something else.

you cant' stop playing BA for HG talking about risk/reward

Play Shazam (& go on with Zatanna)

 

[nightw0lf]

I like how the title is
"Someone HAS to step up and be honest"

"I'm not the whiner this city wants...but i'll be the whiner this city NEEDS"

someone does have to step up and be honest: you wouldn't be whining about this game if you were winning all the majors. Perfect Whiner.

 

[delldroid]

I somewhat agree. But there are fun characters... Most of them just happen to not be top tiers.

Arrow is the funnest character for me.

The mind games are mostly based upon stopping jumps and reading back dashes. At least for offense. No footsies, just reads.

I also thought this game was boring too when I first started playing it. The momentum is generally slower. I kan always be kalm in this game if I'm not getting jumped on by Bats.

I agree with this as well even though I have bad match ups every once and awhile. Im sure they will bring good updates to the game in time. Its cool a lot of people play the game already.

 

[CY MasterHavik]

I've literally never heard anyone say this, ever.

LOL I'm not kidding people were bitching about it in SC4. Why do you think SC5 added infinite stages?

 

[Vulcan Hades]

I think it's funny how people are saying so many characters in Injustice are braindead. Didn't everyone say the same shit about Ermac at first (Easymac)? Cage? Kenshi? Sonya? Lao? Cyrax?

I don't even like Injustice but you guys are being dumb

Some characters just require less thought than others. By "braindead" people usually mean the characters that require very little thinking and have few but powerful options. It's hard to deny that this game has a few auto-pilot characters.

 

[xX_Atrocitus_Xx]

Wonder Woman is a boring character to me in the comics and the animation. I can't get into her cosmetically so I couldn't play her ingame.

i felt the same way about her until i played as her for a while shes a good time

 

[Skkra]

What I mean by this is that the game is just as fast-paced if not moreso than MK but people just look at the walk speed and say "this shit is slllloooooooowwwww".

I disagree. MK could be fast-paced because of dash blocking. You could play much more an active, exciting footsies game because you had movement options to get in and out of range. In Injustice, the walkspeeds are so slow that your movement is relegated to dashing. Most characters do not recover super quickly after a dash, so you're always taking a risk if both players are in what could other be a "footsies" situation. Dash forward against Lantern? Enjoy eating a lift for a huge combo. Superman will f+2,3. Etc. So instead the entire pace of the game just gets dragged down.

And it's almost like having depth, flexibility and a lot of options is irrelevant in Injustice. You just have one true move for each situation and there's never a good reason to try something else.

THIS. Earlier I posted that the tactics in this game felt "linear and transparent" and this is what I meant. It feels confining as heck sometimes. Hell, compare standard Superman or Black Adam play to the kind of crazy setups Poongko used in the famous match against Daigo at Evo. He's afforded so much creativity.

 

[Minh Giang]

you guys think IGAU/MK is boring to watch? Try not to sleep at 5A.M. and watch Superman/Sub-Zero mirror match like me lol. Almost every tournament in the US happens when it's from 11P.M. -> 8A.M. in my country.

 

[Solo_Is_The_Name]

you guys think IGAU/MK is boring to watch? Try not to sleep at 5A.M. and watch Superman/Sub-Zero mirror match like me lol. Almost every tournament in the US happens when it's from 11P.M. -> 8A.M. in my country.

That's rough.

 

[BookOfTheBlack]

All i'll say:
Amount of hours spent playing Injustice this month: 0
Amount of hours spent playing Higurashi Daybreak Portable Mega Edition: 30+

Clearly it shows which is the superior fighting game.