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KombatNerd

Justice 4 Firestorm
If a male character had a face that looked that fucked up, we would point it out too. I remember people talked about how buff Liu Kang looked, how strong Stryker's chin was, how MK3 alt Sub-Zero looked like Brady, ect. We don't just judge how the females look.
That MK3 alt was lazy.
 

Minh Giang

aka ChrsitianDMG on Stream
Who the fuck are NRS's artists???

If a male character had a face that looked that fucked up, we would point it out too. I remember people talked about how buff Liu Kang looked, how strong Stryker's chin was, how MK3 alt Sub-Zero looked like Brady, ect. We don't just judge how the females look.
lmao UMK3 Sub never look like Tom Brady, sorry. Srsly, John Turk looks like Tom Brady, dafuq???
 

GrandMasterson

The Netherrealm beckons
I'm sorry, but it's the truth. Anytime a female character is ever debuted or discussed, the first thing people mention is her looks.
Males aren't treated the same way.
Now, think about the big picture for a moment. I know it's hard, but try. How does that kind of behavior make us look to outsiders? What does that say regarding our maturity level? Also, could that not alienate possible female gamers?

I think so. The gaming community needs to grow up.
First of all, how is discussing a video game character's looks sexist, male or female? Were you not around when the Zod trailer was announced ("HE LOOKS SO UGLY AND STUPID!!1")? Second, this is about quality of art direction, not whether or not she's fap material. Get a grip man, stop shoehorning your stupid gender politics where they don't exist.
 

Goldi

Noob
Someday I'm going to make a thread complaining I can't whack it to Nightwing lol

... She totally does have mom hair though, I'll admit that much
 

insomnia_ftw

It's simple.. We normalize the superman.
It's well established that NRS has terrible 3D modelers and animators with very few exceptions. I would say that NRS brought in some interns fresh out of art school a few years ago, but it really hasn't improved at all since MK9. I guess it's just flat out incompetence.

It's a shame, because NRS has some very talented concept artists (Steve Beran is amazing and does pretty much all of the awesome character art you see in the MK art book). Something truly awful happens in the transition from 2D to 3D.

I would go as far to say that NRS is one of the worst offenders in video games when it comes to 3D art direction quality in general. Good thing their games are fun.
This is what I don't get. How can they not get their hands on great modelers with how well both mk9 and inj did in sales. The aesthetics in this game are pretty terrible all around. It's not too off-putting, but for a game with comic book characters I would expect a lot of the budget to be dumped into the art direction. With the bad textures and recycled animations, it looks like they cut a ton of corners. Am I overestimating NRS's budget? I mean they have WB and DC working with them.
 

G4S Claude VonStroke

@MK_ClaudeVS on twitter
I'm sorry, but it's the truth. Anytime a female character is ever debuted or discussed, the first thing people mention is her looks.
Males aren't treated the same way.
Now, think about the big picture for a moment. I know it's hard, but try. How does that kind of behavior make us look to outsiders? What does that say regarding our maturity level? Also, could that not alienate possible female gamers?

I think so. The gaming community needs to grow up.
LBSH when a guy walks into a room when, do you notice his looks? When a girl walks into a room do you notice her looks? This is just basic biology, natural instinct.
 

Goldi

Noob
Women get critiqued harsher for their appearance. Especially live ones.

Is it sexist? Meh... It's biology. On a primal level we're really just looking for indications of health, youth and fertility. As women age the fat in our faces, most notably the cheeks (among other non-face places) decreases. So a shallow, bony face can indicate an illness or being past prime reproductive years.

It's nothing personal, just a trick of nature to help us make more people.
 

trufenix

bye felicia
This is what I don't get. How can they not get their hands on great modelers with how well both mk9 and inj did in sales. The aesthetics in this game are pretty terrible all around. It's not too off-putting, but for a game with comic book characters I would expect a lot of the budget to be dumped into the art direction. With the bad textures and recycled animations, it looks like they cut a ton of corners. Am I overestimating NRS's budget? I mean they have WB and DC working with them.
two possible scenarios, either
a) the entire consumer base is retarded and likes bad art direction (and has for three whole months)
b) nobody actually gives a shit and its not as bad as you say.

hint: it's b.
 

webreg

Noob
Women get critiqued harsher for their appearance. Especially live ones. Is it sexist? Meh... It's biology. On a primal level we're really just looking for indications of health, youth and fertility.
I don't think that's true. Not the biology part, that is most certainly true. The "harsher critiqued" part. I'm quite sure that the female members of our species, you could probably attest to that, judge men just as harshly on their looks, just not publicly but rather in the confines of their close peer group. This is where the sexism part comes from. It is accepted or maybe even expected that men judge women publicly by their physical attributes. Yet when a woman would do that she would most certainly be in for harsh critique.
 

insomnia_ftw

It's simple.. We normalize the superman.
two possible scenarios, either
a) the entire consumer base is retarded and likes bad art direction (and has for three whole months)
b) nobody actually gives a shit and its not as bad as you say.

hint: it's b.
Thanks man, I appreciate your condescending response. I'm not trying to say I'm outraged about it, just confused as to why a lot of the models/animations/effects look so shoddy.
 

trufenix

bye felicia
Thanks man, I appreciate your condescending response. I'm not trying to say I'm outraged about it, just confused as to why a lot of the models/animations/effects look so shoddy.
This isn't condescending, its truth. You ask why it looks so "shoddy" I tell you, because its a crappy 30 fps interlaced all to shit youtube video. The real game, the thing people actually want to spend 60 dollars on, looks much better and in two weeks nobody will care about these "valid" complaints.
 

GrandMasterson

The Netherrealm beckons
This isn't condescending, its truth. You ask why it looks so "shoddy" I tell you, because its a crappy 30 fps interlaced all to shit youtube video. The real game, the thing people actually want to spend 60 dollars on, looks much better and in two weeks nobody will care about these "valid" complaints.
I know it looks bad even in the actual game, because I've played it. NRS's 3D art direction has never been good. Does us criticizing the art direction hurt your feelings or something? Just ignore us. I don't care that nobody will care in 2 weeks, I'm going to say it anyway because art direction is a huge part of video games. Obviously not as big as the actual gameplay, but it's still worth commenting on.
 

insomnia_ftw

It's simple.. We normalize the superman.
This isn't condescending, its truth. You ask why it looks so "shoddy" I tell you, because its a crappy 30 fps interlaced all to shit youtube video. The real game, the thing people actually want to spend 60 dollars on, looks much better and in two weeks nobody will care about these "valid" complaints.
Dude of course I'm not basing my opinion on the quality of a youtube video, I was thinking of things I've noticed in the game itself. Once again, I'm not passing these opinions off as "valid" complaints. They are what they are, nitpicks. I think you have me confused with your average "lololol manface" poster.
 
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