Injustice: GAU going 3/5 like Marvel at "CEO Never Sleeps" in November

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There's been more and more talk about the tournament format of Injustice: Gods Among Us. It would seem that 99% of the community and developers want to see the game go 3/5 similar to Marvel for tournament play. Injustice matches tend to go quickly (with the Top 8 at EVO finishing much faster than any other game), and many people have expressed the view that 3-5 games makes for great and much more complete-feeling sets. In addition, Major League Gaming popularized the format last year for Mortal Kombat 9, to much success. Well, come "CEO (Community Effort Orlando) Never Sleeps" this November taking place at 8444 International Drive, Orlando, Florida Alex JeBailey will be enforcing this format of 3/5 for Injustice.

After playing the game himself the other night, he was quoted on twitter with the following:

Playing injustice and ae tonight. After 3 matches I really feel injustice should become a 3/5 game like Marvel. Will do that for CEO in NOV

Facebook event page: https://www.facebook.com/events/330657077037348/?fref=ts



Source: AlexJeBailey
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[WaywardStranger]

Alas!

 

[DownfouralitY]

Good shit, awesome to see this finally happening.

 

[GamerBlake90]

Glad to see this step being taken for the sake of Injustice.

So, I wonder...will this mean that Winner's Finals, Loser's Finals, and Grand Finals will each become a 4/7 to adjust to this change, as they are typically the longest and most important bracket matches in a tournament? Or will they also be 3/5? Either way, I'm content.

 

[Tom Brady]

it needs to stay 2/3, i dont agree with 3/5

 

[coolwhip]

it needs to stay 2/3, i dont agree with 3/5

Why not?

 

[Ashenar]

it needs to stay 2/3, i dont agree with 3/5

You could use that extra match against PL imo.

 

[Tom Brady]

You could use that extra match against PL imo.

dude, blow someone else up. I could not have used that extra match. what I could have done was exploited metropolis then like I do it now..

 

[KombatNerd]

Cool for more Injustice.
But watching more Supes? ;_;

 

[Ashenar]

dude, blow someone else up. I could not have used that extra match. what I could have done was exploited metropolis then like I do it now..

Well there you go another match to exploit metropolis! =) You know I love messing with you Tom.

 

[Tom Brady]

Why not?

Its not that I dont agree, its that I feel like while interactables could possibly warrant 3/5...

I feel that 3/5 favors a one sided MU a lot more than 2/3. As if 2/3 wouldnt be hard enough, being up 2-1 in a MU thats one sided means little because your odds of winning that 3rd game at the highest level are still very slim. It gives the person on the good end of the one sided MU too much of an adv. Take kabal vs SZ in MK9.. at the highest level it is possible that MAYBE i could go up 2-1 once out of god knows how many tries on a kabal at REO's level. HOWEVER, at that level I will never see that third game. 3/5 HEAVILY favors that Kabal player even more than 2/3. This is the main reason why I have reservations on 3/5 for every match.

HOWEVER... 3/5 is infinitely more consistent, and now that I think about it, I'm on board. The issue is that I have tried to get Injustice to 3/5 from day 1 but 99% of T.O's weren't going for it so I stopped talking about it.

 

[Bildslash]

Nevermind, explanation given.

 

[G4S Claude VonStroke]

Just ban intractables, Keep it 2/3. That would be awesome.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

Its not that I dont agree, its that I feel like while interactables could possibly warrant 3/5...

1. I feel that 3/5 favors a one sided MU a lot more than 2/3. As if 2/3 wouldnt be hard enough, being up 2-1 in a MU thats one sided means little because your odds of winning that 3rd game at the highest level are still very slim. It gives the person on the good end of the one sided MU too much of an adv. Take kabal vs SZ in MK9.. at the highest level it is possible that MAYBE i could go up 2-1 once out of god knows how many tries on a kabal at REO's level. HOWEVER, at that level I will never see that third game. 3/5 HEAVILY favors that Kabal player even more than 2/3. This is the main reason why I have reservations on 3/5 for every match.

That seems to depend heavily on your playstyle, though -- for example at MLG, we saw a lot of unlikely and exciting underdog comebacks that were only available because of the 4th/5th game. It seems like it can go both ways.

For a concrete example there is Dizzy, who often goes down in the first game in bad matchups against say, a good Kabal player, while he reads their style and then often becomes more dangerous as the match goes on.

 

[Tom Brady]

Just ban intractables, Keep it 2/3. That would be awesome.

NO WAY.. because that also removes stage bounce which is a big part of the game.

 

[Tom Brady]

That seems to depend heavily on your playstyle, though -- for example at MLG, we saw a lot of unlikely and exciting underdog comebacks that were only available because of the 4th/5th game. It seems like it can go both ways.

For a concrete example there is Dizzy, who often goes down in the first game in bad matchups against say, a good Kabal player, while he reads their style and then often becomes more dangerous as the match goes on.

While true, this was less common then the event being chalk heavy. Meaning, the MK9 tier list REALLY showed at MLG.

aslo, Cage is fucking ridiculous... its not like he is using Ermac...

 

[Ashenar]

Just ban intractables, Keep it 2/3. That would be awesome.

says the killer frost player. I see what your doing Claude.

 

[G4S Claude VonStroke]

says the killer frost player. I see what your doing Claude.

I've always though interactables made the game super scrubby. No matter what characters are being played. I'd rather see two people out play each other with footsies, etc than getting a hit by tracking 20% unblockables. #ResidentSleeper

 

[Zyphox]

Its not that I dont agree, its that I feel like while interactables could possibly warrant 3/5...

I feel that 3/5 favors a one sided MU a lot more than 2/3. As if 2/3 wouldnt be hard enough, being up 2-1 in a MU thats one sided means little because your odds of winning that 3rd game at the highest level are still very slim. It gives the person on the good end of the one sided MU too much of an adv. Take kabal vs SZ in MK9.. at the highest level it is possible that MAYBE i could go up 2-1 once out of god knows how many tries on a kabal at REO's level. HOWEVER, at that level I will never see that third game. 3/5 HEAVILY favors that Kabal player even more than 2/3. This is the main reason why I have reservations on 3/5 for every match.



Injustice does have the interactables, which can change the outcome of a match, so I'm not entirely opposed to 3/5.

STAPH comparing MU's from MK9 to injustice, the game is early there is no definitive way to assure there are one sided MU's like there were in mk9. there is a whole meta game we fail to even see yet in injustice, we have facts to go with 3/5, you named one, another is how fast the game goes. there are NO rounds, if you get hit by the flash first say goodbye to 100% of your health, trust me you and everyone will see that happen at SJ i assure. imagine IF cyrax were in injustice? please save this debate, interactables do TOO much damage as of right now and with no rounds injustice 3/5 is the BEST way to go about it. when every one start to set up interactables to tack on and extra 20% to 40% with broken interatables or car boom loops with batgirl with only ONE clash you will see the error of your debate, so tom please consider the future of this game. 3/5 or die btw good stuff yesterday it will be a pleasure to see you again at SJ in two weeks.,

 

[Qwark28]

Its not that I dont agree, its that I feel like while interactables could possibly warrant 3/5...

I feel that 3/5 favors a one sided MU a lot more than 2/3. As if 2/3 wouldnt be hard enough, being up 2-1 in a MU thats one sided means little because your odds of winning that 3rd game at the highest level are still very slim. It gives the person on the good end of the one sided MU too much of an adv. Take kabal vs SZ in MK9.. at the highest level it is possible that MAYBE i could go up 2-1 once out of god knows how many tries on a kabal at REO's level. HOWEVER, at that level I will never see that third game. 3/5 HEAVILY favors that Kabal player even more than 2/3. This is the main reason why I have reservations on 3/5 for every match.



Injustice does have the interactables, which can change the outcome of a match, so I'm not entirely opposed to 3/5.

so what are you saying to the developers who built injustice the way it is for 3/5? colt has said it multiple times

 

[Qwark28]

aslo, Cage is fucking ridiculous... its not like he is using Ermac...

Metzos

 

[Ashenar]

I've always though interactables made the game super scrubby. No matter what characters are being played. I'd rather see two people out play each other with footsies, etc than getting a hit by tracking 20% unblockables. #ResidentSleeper

If the game in general had better movement for the majority of the cast instead of becoming for the most part a knock down 50/50 game I would agree 100% with you but that's not how this game works unfortunately.

 

[Tom Brady]

@crimson Shadow

Also, Cage is NOT like say.. Sub-Zero..

Sub-Zero RELIES on reads way more than a character like cage. For a SZ player to put a Kabal on REO's level in the corner and make better reads to go up 2-1, 3/5 will feel like a death sentence for that guy. To do that again.. probably not gonna happen.


Again, 3/5 is INFINITLEY more consistent and there is NO data to suggest any really lop-sided matches in Injustice.. I'm kinda just putting stuff out there. I just dont want the.. "well.. 2/3 was too random so we had to use 3/5" because this suggests that the game's "random" elements outweigh the better player element, hence an extra game is needed. If 3/5 is used just to insure more consistent results, I'm all on board.

 

[Tom Brady]

STAPH comparing MU's from MK9 to injustice, the game is early there is no definitive way to assure there are one sided MU's like there were in mk9. there is a whole meta game we fail to even see yet in injustice, we have facts to go with 3/5, you named one, another is how fast the game goes. there are NO rounds, if you get hit by the flash first say goodbye to 100% of your health, trust me you and everyone will see that happen at SJ i assure. imagine IF cyrax were in injustice? please save this debate, interactables do TOO much damage as of right now and with no rounds injustice 3/5 is the BEST way to go about it. when every one start to set up interactables to tack on and extra 20% to 40% with broken interatables or car boom loops with batgirl with only ONE clash you will see the error of your debate, so tom please consider the future of this game. 3/5 or die btw good stuff yesterday it will be a pleasure to see you again at SJ in two weeks.,

dude.. I am the one saying there is no lop-sided MU's since day one and getting blown up for it by YOU actually on occasion lol. I just made the MK9 example because MLG used that format.
I agree that Injustice is very balanced and has no handicap matches.

 

[Tom Brady]

Again...

3/5 is infinitely more consistent, and now that I think about it, I'm on board. The issue is that I have tried to get Injustice to 3/5 from day 1 but 99% of T.O.'s didn't want to use 3/5 over 2/3 for time reasons. Hopefully this change will become standard.