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Video X Games 2014, "you can consider Injustice and Mortal Kombat 9 locks"

CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
Administrator
I mean if Rolando says they exceeded the target for this event, and only he knows the budgets, expenses, goals of the tourist board and what they had to work with.. Who can really say otherwise?

378 for an event in a remote location in its 2nd year is actually pretty good. You can't judge it as if this was happening in Chicago or something.
 

1truking

Apprentice
Honestly any tournament will have its issues. Learning to build a big event is hard and takes trial and error. A lot of times it takes years. Lets look at gripes from tournaments of the last year we've all come to know and love:

NEC: had some bracket issues
UFGT: A lot of stream timeslot/fairness issues, caused a big ruckus
CEO: Issues with some systems not having the current hotfix, almost all the way through pools
EVO: Issues with switching tournament rules in the middle of a game bracket

And some of these tournaments have been around for years and years. They were all still fun experiences despite any screwups.

How do you think most of the TOs you respect, like Jebailey, 9.95, etc. learned to run a good tournament? Through trial and error. Getting out there, having stuff go wrong, making mistakes, and learning from them for the next event they did. It's growing pains, and it's an important part of the process.

The difference was that a lot of these guys started small, wheras VxG has been in the spotlight and scrutinized the entire time, since it aimed to be really big and well publicized from the get go. So VxG has had to grow up in the spotlight, faster than anyone else.

To Rolando the_vxg: understand that the reason VxG was criticized so harshly is that people haven't built trust for the event yet. Believe me, people snapped just as critically after things that occurred at UFGT and CEO (with some players threatening not to come back in the case of UFGT), but the community has gotten to know those tournaments and organizers over some years, so there's a basic level of trust and familiarity to go underneath the scrutiny and the usual trolling.

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Eh no. The main reason that VxG was criticized harshly was because of TriForce's trash talking and promises. In general triforce isn't a popular guy but him talking about how big this would be is what made people jump on it when it "failed." I didn't consider it a failure but then again I understand how the business aspect of it worked and as the_vxg confirmed it looks like I was right on that.

I was highly disappointed in the marvel grand finals though. It was a major let down but that has nothing to do with Rolando thats just the players.
 

CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
Administrator
Eh no. The main reason that VxG was criticized harshly was because of TriForce's trash talking and promises. In general triforce isn't a popular guy but him talking about how big this would be is what made people jump on it when it "failed." I didn't consider it a failure but then again I understand how the business aspect of it worked and as the_vxg confirmed it looks like I was right on that.
That's 100% untrue -- as soon as the event was announced, it was attacked immediately over payouts and everything else. This was long before Triforce was ever in the picture.

It was just a lack of trust and a relationship that hadn't been built yet.
 

1truking

Apprentice
That's 100% untrue -- as soon as the event was announced, it was attacked immediately over payouts and everything else. This was long before Triforce was ever in the picture.

It was just a lack of trust and a relationship that hadn't been built yet.

Maybe in the NRS community but not in the other communities which I didn't pay attention to since I couldn't care lessa bout nrs other than injustice but the other communities were looking forward to it but when it wasn't living up to what triforce promised they attacked. NRS couldn't care less about triforce and in general the NRS community is catty like that but you're a tiny part of the overall fgc.
 

CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
Administrator
Maybe in the NRS community but not in the other communities which I didn't pay attention to since I couldn't care lessa bout nrs other than injustice but the other communities were looking forward to it but when it wasn't living up to what triforce promised they attacked. NRS couldn't care less about triforce and in general the NRS community is catty like that but you're a tiny part of the overall fgc.
It wasn't just one segment of the community, and I was there at the time for the tweets, rumors, comments on shows and all the people comparing it to Devastation.
 

kronspik

Mortal
I was one of the people who thought VxG was a wash from an outsider perspective, but then I heard about all the good things and I've since changed my mind. I know you think that having a good stream is only a tertiary concern, but it does a lot to improve your outside image. The bad stream this year helped to supplement the negative rumors that were floating around. I think it's a big deal.

PUT SOME PARTIES ON STREAM DAMMIT
 

Crathen

Death is my business
Tbh i heard through the grapevine , that players that went to VxG aren't allowed by some kind of contract to badmouth the event or else they will not be fully paid of their money. Just tossin this out there for some llama drama