Ive never really heard Preon talk before this video.
"Never underestimate the human race's ability to make itself look even darker" -Based Yellow Derp
He was saving it for #MAXCPMLOL, we played at Reno's for like 2 hours straight and I don't think he said a single word.
We aren't talking about expressing opinions in a contructive manner, we are talking about being a troll and being destructive. Just becuse you are able to do something, doesn't give you the right to do it, or make you justified in doing it; they are mutually exclusive things. Fundamentally peoples rights extend as far as not imposing on someone elses rights. Just as you or I could verbaly abuse someone else all day everyday if we wanted too, the abusee has the right not to be abused, so if you are imposing your will in this situation...you are in the wrong.You're wrong. You can shit on whoever's opinion you want, for whatever reason. If we couldn't, why does this thread even exist?
LOL, we played at Reno's for like 2 hours straight and I don't think he said a single word.
I'mma hold dat.He was saving it for #MAXCPM
When its about the games, its about the games. If we're out and about I talk but I never have a reason to get loud when ya'll are showing so much hospitality. And since I play bane, who am I sharing tech with? So by proxy don't talk much just enjoy the experience.
TBH FPS gamers playing different games shit on each other as well, just not as much as in the FGC.
Exactly. People need to understand that this community, as it grows, become less of a "boys club," and more of a legit eSport / spectator eSport. A sertain amount of sportsmanship and professionalism is needed.Snip...quote]
i agree, also though have you played black ops 2 on the xbox or halo 3 back in the day? it happens online too in these communities, alot. i have received more death threats, racist, and homophobic messages on halo 3 back in the day than in the last 3 years playing COD and MK9/injustice combined. also to me IMO its not glorified in any community, in the FGC pop offs to an extent are glorified becomes its hype. but if it goes to far there is backlash and imo is not supported at all. same with COD and Halo 3, mid match it was common to hear people yelling and tea bagging IN tournament in halo 3, thats why MLG has that rule where if it gets excessive they give you one warning followed by a DQ, at MLG Columbus 09 MID match i was called a beaner [ban incoming] for out Br'ing some honkey chump and the REF gave him a warning. we eliminated his team round 5 of the losers bracket in the open bracket play and he didn't even shake my hand, i am Dominican, the rest of my team were white boys. so far in the FGC it has never gone there where i have been at least. have you heard MLG commentary for COD? halo 3? they also "glorify" pop offs in the commentary, they would be like "ohhhh some words and tea bagging after that kill from yada yada" and the crowd laughs. my point is it happens everywhere, for the most part in a lot of gaming communities, its unfair to just point a finger at the FGC and differentiate between gamers. if you want footage i can find some FPS pop offs, kids breaking their controllers after losing, fights and a lot of salt.Final notes: On the FGC side it is so rampant and glorified its seen on the surface. Like when I go search for tournament footage for seemingly any other game, its normal. Decent sportsmanship every now and then a little disdainful content but yeah Zyphox you're right it does happen in EVERY community to an extent. However, in the FGC I don't have to go looking for it. ITS EVERYWHERE. With the FPS and MOBA communities, you have to at least SEARCH for the drama. It doesn't just pop up. Also I'm not just talking about "top players" or "tournament players" here. I mean as a WHOLE. From people who just go into games and when they lose you get a message saying
Now I know the defense here is "IT HAPPENS IN FPS and MOBAs" but be honest. In your online experience, where does it happen MORE? Where does it seem glorified? Most other games last so much longer and the salt can build so much. Fighting matches take less than 5 minutes a pop. Yet so much salt. So fast. THen they get mad at online, then turn around to say "ONLINE DOESN'T MATTER"
With how some individuals within the FGC act, I'm starting to question that particular love.Why would someone bother becoming part of the FGC?
Because they have a passion for fighting games. Plain and simple.
That really isn't the same thing. What dude is talking about in the vid would be more like if the Golf community was split into smaller factions of players who only play on certain courses.Why would someone bother becoming part of the FGC?
Because they have a passion for fighting games. Plain and simple.
It's not like the entire golf community gets butt hurt when some randoms from the basketball community say golf is trash. Why should it matter what a few select people have to say!?! These generalization of the FGC have been so selective to certain individuals lately.
I know I've said this before, but imagine if at every football event absolutely every person's views, actions, and comments in the audience represented how the football community is viewed. There are bad people everywhere, in every large communion of people.
We all have assholes too, but that doesn't mean we should shove them in people's faces any chance we get. Too many people treat their opinions like something they can just vomit out whenever they want. These people suffer from lack of restraint or self-control, or maybe they just don't care about others. If I'm watching a movie I don't care for, I don't tell everyone in the theater "God DAMN this movie is shit!!". I could if I wanted to, and I have every right to, but I wouldn't because it would ruin others' experience. If I did share my opinion, it would be with those who care to hear it.
FPS elitism chart:
1) quake/ut/warsow -- "all other games are inferior both in tactical and execution requirements. quake3 is the most balanced game of all time"
2) tribes -- "tribes is harder than quake"
2) counterstrike -- "all other tactical shooooooters are watered down versions of cs"
3) TF2 -- "tf2 is a valid competitive platform but valve just wants to sell hats"
4) all other PC shooters -- "at least we dont play console"
5) console shooters -- "FPS as a genre sure has come a long way since CoD4 started it all back in 2008"
Off topic: I'm being general and saying it like it is. The other great thing about an opinion? You don't have to agree with it or even humor it with a response. The only time it would get to me is if I'm friends with the party in question. And I was simply saying that people HAVE the right to state their opinions, regardless of how dickish they may be. I wasn't condoning physical violence or anything like that.I just like being cool to other people. Why do so many people think they matter enough to shit on someone's day?
(this is in reference to dickish use of opinions, not constructive ones)
Case in point REO's recent thread in the Lobo forum....We aren't talking about expressing opinions in a contructive manner, we are talking about being a troll and being destructive. Just becuse you are able to do something, doesn't give you the right to do it, or make you justified in doing it; they are mutually exclusive things. Fundamentally peoples rights extend as far as not imposing on someone elses rights. Just as you or I could verbaly abuse someone else all day everyday if we wanted too, the abusee has the right not to be abused, so if you are imposing your will in this situation...you are in the wrong.
I could break a window, at it would be my "right" to do it, that doesn't make it the correct thing to do. If I impose my right to throw a rock through YOUR window, you have the right to hold me accountable and I would have to face the consequences.
yes, and plus thats ONE guy who did that. hold on let me educate you on other communities i'll brb.Zyphox hey guys I don't mean for anything "priavte" to get out. But one of my subscribers linked me to this... and holy shit. Does this happen in other communities?
http://www.mkservertrash.com/
Wait, what? You can shit on other's opinions all you want for whatever reason, but it doesn't justify you shoving it in their face. It's like you say you love PS, and I'm like no FUCK YOU, YOU'RE STUPID XBOX IS BETTER. That's what this is about, people will always not like the same stuff as you, but you don't have to be a dick about it and shove it into other's faces.You're wrong. You can shit on whoever's opinion you want, for whatever reason. If we couldn't, why does this thread even exist?