Zod F2 D4 Low Overhead Command Grab Tech Video

[Pig Of The Hut]

Pig and Wonderchef found out that they could combo a normal in to Zod's trait grab, which usually isn't possible since there is a built in fail safe for that, that basically stops Zod from doing anything but trait slashes if he has not recovered to attack himself.

They did not know how this worked however, as they only found that they could land it by doing an instant dash after trait activation, followed by a normal canceled in to db4.

I explored it, and found that the key is simply the recovery of the trait itself. After activating trait, the trait has a pretty significant recovery, and it seems that an instant dash after activation, followed by f2 xx 4, is just the timing to get out the grab on the first possible frame. Another way to set up a combo in to grab like this, is to do a trait slash which will put the trait in to recovery, and use that recovery to do a f2 (for example) in to the trait grab on the first possible frame.

Godlessmode explained it pretty well in his post, even though it's just a theory:

I expect they do a state check/set a state during a combo, and because the lil KT-ling is in a non-responsive state the state isn't set correctly to him.

When you just frame the input you manage to get him to receive a command throw instruction before receiving the "in combo" state check data. So instead of refusing the command grab and doing the KT Slap, he instead does the KT grab.

I also gave some pointers on how I would land it consistently off of f2:

Btw, the way I do it consistently is: trait slash, wait 0.1 sec, f2 xx db4 (You need to do this quarter circle motion very fast to make the buffer window work in your favor. What I mean by this is: You need to get the trait grab out on the first frame it is possible, so... a trait reversal.. And since there is a buffer window in injustice, the db4 will keep trying to come out during this window of a few frames, so by doing it as fast as possible, you cover the frame that the trait grab needs to come out on nicely)

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[Gesture Required Ahead]

Fix that fucking character lol

 

[G4S Killin Natzees]

I'm really digging all this work you're doing with Zod, my friend! I think I might know a way to get the f2 overhead using a ghetto reset maybe. I'll have to test it a bit

Great video though!

 

[Insuperable]

Can't you do KT grab mixups with Zod's low laser?? Like f2 low laser overhead command grab?

 

[Ra Helios]

I already find this out already. NeatherreAlm need to fix the input button on each character and stop rushing their game until they think every input button is fix

 

[chores]

#WhensZodcast

 

[MkFinest]

nice cool that you made a video about it

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

I already find this out already. NeatherreAlm need to fix the input button on each character and stop rushing their game until they think every input button is fix

Main reason I wanted to make video is showcase u can only do this upon immediate activation

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Can't you do KT grab mixups with Zod's low laser?? Like f2 low laser overhead command grab?

Like anytime in general or right upon activation?

 

[godlessmode]

The narrow window of this makes it seem like it will only work off of setups. But awesome stuff regardless, just gotta find the setups for it.

 

[Insuperable]

Like anytime in general or right upon activation?

Anytime. I think I saw you or Chef messing with full screen laser to overhead grab mixups about a week ago

 

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

"he is not ready to party immediately, he needs a few minutes to get ready to party..."

These videos make me love Zod.

 

[godlessmode]

Anytime. I think I saw you or Chef messing with full screen laser to overhead grab mixups about a week ago

Yeah, this is a much harder to block 50/50 than that is.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Anytime. I think I saw you or Chef messing with full screen laser to overhead grab mixups about a week ago

Oh yea absolutely
I thought you meant in pressure like f21low laser overhead grab link

Hmm

Me try that

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Yeah, this is a much harder to block 50/50 than that is.

A setup for this would be f21u2 IAZB ji2 ZB dash 123 trait dash f2 grab

 

[Boodendorf]

KNEEL BEFORE THE GLITCH

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

KNEEL BEFORE THE GLITCH

I'm honestly not sure if it is one

May just be a setup w good timing

 

[SimSim]

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I will try to explore this a little before I go sailing for a week tomorrow

I was wondering though.. Is there a reason why you are not doing d12 or d1 canceled in to trait and still use 123 xx trait even though it's an inferior set up? Is it just because the hard knock down allegedly is getting removed from those? Man I hate that those might go away..

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

I will try to explore this a little before I go sailing for a week tomorrow

I was wondering though.. Is there a reason why you are not doing d12 or d1 canceled in to trait and still use 123 xx trait even though it's an inferior set up? Is it just because the hard knock down allegedly is getting removed from those? Man I hate that those might go away..

Because I've been told its 100% getting removed so I'm trying to play him now the same way i play him in tournaments in nov

I'm at work now but can someone try and see if f21 low laser (normal ) grab works?

 

[godlessmode]

A setup for this would be f21u2 IAZB ji2 ZB dash 123 trait dash f2 grab

I play a batgirl almost constantly and her batpoof seems to beat 1234 as a trait summon setup, hits you during the summon recovery.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

SimSim

Which is better to end w for the setup? D3 or 123?

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

I play a batgirl almost constantly and her batpoof seems to beat 1234 as a trait summon setup, hits you during the summon recovery.

I always summon trait on her in other ways such as d3 or when she whiffs projectile

 

[SimSim]

SimSim

Which is better to end w for the setup? D3 or 123?

Not done any testing, but I would say 123 a million times better because of it being able to cancel in to trait.

 

[Rampage254]

MB B3™

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

"he is not ready to party immediately, he needs a few minutes to get ready to party..."

These videos make me love Zod.

When KT Smith comes out this song at 1:20 into the video starts playing cause the party has started

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