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mlor

Noob
Hello, I'm about to choose my main character and I'm looking for some sort of guide with characters strengths and weaknesses (their archtypes, zoners, close combat etc). Is there something like this ? I didn't find anything on the forum.
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
Aquaman - versatile
Ares - run away and set ups
Bane - rush down
Batgirl - 50/50 mix ups and anti-zoning
Batman - versatile
Black Adam - versatile
Catwoman - 50/50 mix ups and rush down
Cyborg - zoning
Deathstroke - (mediocre) zoning and 50/50 mix ups
Doomsday - rush down
Flash - rush down and 50/50 mix ups
Green Arrow - set ups
Green Lantern - footsies and rush down
Harley - rush down and mix ups
Hawkgirl - footsies and keep away
Joker - rush down
Killer Frost - 50/50 mix ups
Lex Luthor - set ups
Lobo - rush down
Martial Manhunter - set ups and anti-zoning
Nightwing - rush down
Scorpion - 50/50 mix ups and anti-zoning
Shazam - rush down
Sinestro - zoning and set ups
Solomon Grundy - rush down
Superman - versatile
Wonder Woman - versatile
Zod - zoning and set ups
 

mlor

Noob
Aquaman - versatile
Ares - run away and set ups
Bane - rush down
Batgirl - 50/50 mix ups and anti-zoning
Batman - versatile
Black Adam - versatile
Catwoman - 50/50 mix ups and rush down
Cyborg - zoning
Deathstroke - (mediocre) zoning and 50/50 mix ups
Doomsday - rush down
Flash - rush down and 50/50 mix ups
Green Arrow - set ups
Green Lantern - footsies and rush down
Harley - rush down and mix ups
Hawkgirl - footsies and keep away
Joker - rush down
Killer Frost - 50/50 mix ups
Lex Luthor - set ups
Lobo - rush down
Martial Manhunter - set ups and anti-zoning
Nightwing - rush down
Scorpion - 50/50 mix ups and anti-zoning
Shazam - rush down
Sinestro - zoning and set ups
Solomon Grundy - rush down
Superman - versatile
Wonder Woman - versatile
Zod - zoning and set ups
woah, this is great, thx man. One question, what do 50/50 mix ups and set ups mean ?
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
woah, this is great, thx man. One question, what do 50/50 mix ups and set ups mean ?
50/50 mix up is a mix up between an attack that must be blocked high (standing) and an attack that must be blocked low (crouching). Such mix up can neither be fuzzy guarded nor blocked on reaction. For example, Killer Frost's f+3 and slide is a 50/50 mix up.

A set up is anything that puts the player in a favorable situation. For example, if Martian Manhunter knocks you down with b,f+2, performs an MB orb behind you, and jumps slightly forward to execute an overhead teleport, the teleport crosses up and avoids 90% of all wake up attacks.
 

Chongo

Dead Kings Rise
Aquaman - versatile
Ares - run away and set ups
Bane - rush down
Batgirl - 50/50 mix ups and anti-zoning
Batman - versatile
Black Adam - versatile
Catwoman - 50/50 mix ups and rush down
Cyborg - zoning
Deathstroke - (mediocre) zoning and 50/50 mix ups
Doomsday - rush down
Flash - rush down and 50/50 mix ups
Green Arrow - set ups
Green Lantern - footsies and rush down
Harley - rush down and mix ups
Hawkgirl - footsies and keep away
Joker - rush down
Killer Frost - 50/50 mix ups
Lex Luthor - set ups
Lobo - rush down
Martial Manhunter - set ups and anti-zoning
Nightwing - rush down
Scorpion - 50/50 mix ups and anti-zoning
Shazam - rush down
Sinestro - zoning and set ups
Solomon Grundy - rush down
Superman - versatile
Wonder Woman - versatile
Zod - zoning and set ups
I hope I'm not the only one who caught that.
 
While I agree with Batman being pretty versatile, isnt he all about rushing down people as if his life depended on it?
Batman actually has really good zoning with his batarangs and rotating a single trait bats as well as some pretty solid 50/50 set ups. Batman is a great jack of all trades type character.
 

Gesture Required Ahead

Get on that hook
I hope I'm not the only one who caught that.

He's technically right about DS's zoning. But he's not a zoner then 50/50 mix-up char.

He's a footsie char. Punish everything with GS. Apply small pressure and imply 50/50s. Land a YOLO or Combo-ending Sword Flip. Rinse and Repeat.
 

mlor

Noob
So guys what character would you recommend to start with ? I can't choose between: Batman, Black Adam, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Harley and Solomon Grundy. Of course if you have other characters in mind don't hesitate.
 

Gesture Required Ahead

Get on that hook
So guys what character would you recommend to start with ? I can't choose between: Batman, Black Adam, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Harley and Solomon Grundy. Of course if you have other characters in mind don't hesitate.

You'll have a really easy time with Lantern. BEWARE MY POWER
 

Hini

Batomancer
So guys what character would you recommend to start with ? I can't choose between: Batman, Black Adam, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Harley and Solomon Grundy. Of course if you have other characters in mind don't hesitate.
I'm partial to Batman, but he is supposedly a beginner friendly character, on the other hand I dont know what your general skill level in fighting games is.

Choose Lobo if your a ballsy player LMAO
I thought Lobo was quite hard to play as far as execution goes?
 

Sami

Warrior
Apparently Raven doesn't exist in m2dave's eyes.

Raven: Alternates between zoning/counter-zoning (she can keep people away and also grab people trying to stay at a distance to drag them in) to disguising cross-ups. Raven can end pretty much any combo with either a hard-knockdown perfectly spaced for an ambigious cross-up or she can put the opponent fullscreen and activate trait to grant her her "proper" zoning/anti-zoning tools (full-screen grab and demon pillars). Can setup some full-screen dash frame traps too in demon stance (basically, do anything after blocking a pillar or full-screen grab and you're highly likely to eat Soul Crush).

Has a complete non-existent 50/50 game and relies on jump-ins, spacing out the opponent to catch them with a lift or her 6 frame d1 to start offence close up.
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
Apparently Raven doesn't exist in m2dave's eyes.

Raven: Alternates between zoning/counter-zoning (she can keep people away and also grab people trying to stay at a distance to drag them in) to disguising cross-ups. Raven can end pretty much any combo with either a hard-knockdown perfectly spaced for an ambigious cross-up or she can put the opponent fullscreen and activate trait to grant her her "proper" zoning/anti-zoning tools (full-screen grab and demon pillars). Can setup some full-screen dash frame traps too in demon stance (basically, do anything after blocking a pillar or full-screen grab and you're highly likely to eat Soul Crush).

Has a complete non-existent 50/50 game and relies on jump-ins, spacing out the opponent to catch them with a lift or her 6 frame d1 to start offence close up.
Yeah. I forgot about Raven.

Good description.
 
Batman actually has really good zoning with his batarangs and rotating a single trait bats as well as some pretty solid 50/50 set ups. Batman is a great jack of all trades type character.
Batman has decent zoning but his tools don't really compete against more zoning oriented characters. Grappling Gun loses trades against fast projectiles like DS guns or Aquaman's From the Deep and Rangs are just too slow and I find are more often than not able to react to and then block if you use an attack like Zod's Sidearm.

Batmen who are just willing to sit full screen and grapple at me are just the most fun thing ever since none of them ever use trait to force chip from full screen but will waste them after getting hit in the trade.
So guys what character would you recommend to start with ? I can't choose between: Batman, Black Adam, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Harley and Solomon Grundy. Of course if you have other characters in mind don't hesitate.
I'd recommend Batman, Black Adam, or Lantern out of those. Grundy is good but can seem kind of weird at the beginning and Harley is just completely underwhelming as a character; good rush down but her zoning does no damage what so ever making you need really good basics to make use of her.
 

Groove Heaven

Jobber-baron
Green Lantern is an amazing character to start with, he's so intuitive and lift is a great tool to have when you're learning to adapt.
 
I also wouldn't call bane a rushdown per say. More of a pressure grappler if you ask me. Maybe a rushdown/grapple.

Also grundy is pure grappler. All day er day.

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mlor

Noob
I think I'll learn Black Adam first, tried some Batman but I just can't, always losing to AI and Green Lantern is overused :p
 

xInfra Deadx

Gimmick stolen by Jordan Peele
Aquaman - Defensive/Counter Zoning/Ranged Footsies/Mixup
Ares - Counter Zoning/Keep Away/Zoning/Small hint of Rushdown
Bane - Grappler/Rushdown
Batgirl - Mixup/Counter Zoning
Batman - Rushdown/All Around
Black Adam - Counter Zoning/All Around
Catwoman - Ranged Footsies/Mixup
Cyborg - Zoning
Deathstroke - Mixup/Ranged Footsies/Zoning
Doomsday - Rushdown
Flash - Rushdown/Mixup
Green Arrow - Mixup/Rushdown/Ranged Footsies/Small hint of Zoning
Green Lantern - Ranged Footsies/Keep Away
Harley Quinn - All Around/Mixup
Hawkgirl - Defensive/Zoning
Joker - Rushdown/Setup
Killer Frost - Mixup/Counter Zoning
Lex Luthor - Setup/Mixup
Lobo - Grappler/Mixup
Martian Manhunter - Counter Zoning/Setup/Mixup
Nightwing - Rushdown/Ranged Footsies
Raven - Keep Away/Counter Zoning
Scorpion - Counter Zoning/Mixup/Rushdown
Shazam - Grappler/Rushdown/Mixup
Sinestro - Zoning
Solomon Grundy - Grappler/Rushdown
Superman - All Around/Ranged Footsies
Wonder Woman - All Around
Zod - Setup/Zoning