What.
He's got a pretty damn easy 39% combo that can be pulled off online and only costs a bar. That, plus being able to cancel into overhead and low specials mid combo give it a life of its own. It may not be as good as Grandmaster for people who take this game super seriously, but it definitely has some great tools and damage.
Yeah, I know it's a fine variation. I just don't like 1 variation overtly exceeding the other 2. Maybe it's naive for me to expect that level of balance, but I was hoping variation choice would come down to personal taste instead of which one outclasses the others. I guess having that godly d2 and f4, 2, 1+3 is pretty worth it but I can't ignore the utility of the ice clone.
fool proof AA. On all jumps
I don't know who told you this or who said this. EX Hammer alone should be a valid reason to use Cryomancer.
love this combo but its such a bitch online
(or i am probably to slow 
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No one in particular. It's just based on the overall general sentiment on the boards. I'll mess around in the lab with ex hammer later. I didn't know it was that great so thanks for the heads up.
Yeah, the damage potential off of EX. Hammer is pretty awesome. If anything Cryo-Sub just feels right. He already produces solid damage numbers without meter and with it he only gets better. It just feels like a solid trade exchanging one bar for a possible 39% percent damage mid-screen.
Okay, correction. Had to go back and re-read page 1 of this thread. According to Tom's notes the A. Hammer can only be punished by the game's fastest attacks.
B2 B2 F4 2 1+3 is 37% for no meter and stupid easy to do
Ex bomb run F4 2 1+3 27% punish for a jump in or a nice armor for a negative block string like scorpions b3 2 f2 hit it before the f2 and he wont do that again..
Combos off of:
If you are trying Mr. Brady's combos, some of those are more strict on execution than they are worth IMO. Really, for 1 or 2% less damage you can do far more consistent/easy combos. I've revised some myself.
I'll have to try those. Thanks.
@Qwark28 IIRC posted some tech with it that allowed to restand the opponent with I believe he said +16 frames. I've been trying to duplicate it but it's tricky (for what I've seen, you have to manage to get the hammer hitting just once instead of twice as the second hit is the one that knocks them down). I'm not sure if that frame advantage means you can "keep the same combo" going without block opportunity or if it's just like Quan Chi's portal stab where you can't attack but you can block). Maybe Qwark could throw some more light there, I've been able to replicate it from antiair EX Bomb, NJP, JIP, Air Hammer but I'm not sure how do you need to time it and most times I don't restand the opponent.
Projectile trades dude. No one wants to trade with Sub. Hit confirming into ice ball is usually counter productive but ice ball should definitely be used in all variations. Enhanced ice ball is even better due to it absorbing projectiles and b2, run, f4, 2, enhanced ice ball, njp, jp, f4, 2, 1+3 carries the opponent to the corner from over midscreen.
