but vanilla tremors rock was more plus than it said in the frame data menu ingame because he could move before it hit so with that logic it be more than +27 no?I think It's +27 only because it's a slow attack that lets you move before it hits.
It's the best NRS player saying his opinions on some characters and who he predicts to be top tier/competitive backed with reasons why. That's not the same as some random dude putting out an entire list of who he thinks will be top with no real reasons behind it. Yes, WHO is saying it absolutely matters. Why is that concept shameful?So, um...where's the torches and pitchforks at, folks?
This is grade-A material for people to start going nutty over. Is it because of who made it? If so, shame on you.
I actually disagree with this. If someone like pig or reo (not saying that they would, just using as an example) I would be interested in hearing what they had to say, because I value their opinion and their contributions to the scene are well noted.What? LOL. Thanks for the Cliffs, didn't know what the video was. But now that I do-
So much this. This is the grainiest of grainy salts. "This person can do it though" is by definition a logical fallacy.
I have to ask, in all seriousness, did you watch the video? He didn't spit out a tier list, he gave his thoughts on a portion of the cast, and spoke about who he wanted to play and who he speculated could be good. I mean, it's literally the same thing anyone talking about the game is doing he just did it in a video.Tier lists are based on MUs (that no one knows yet) and those MUs are based on highest possible level of play of a game that hasn't been released yet...There's no logical way even Sonic could come up with any worthwhile character rankings. Speculation is fun and all but come on....
you're absolutely rightSo, um...where's the torches and pitchforks at, folks?
This is grade-A material for people to start going nutty over. Is it because of who made it? If so, shame on you.
"Well Isaac Newton studied in Alchemy, do you suppose you know more than Isaac Newton?" Fallacy.Yes, WHO is saying it absolutely matters. Why is that concept shameful?
Their great contributions to the scene are independent of normally agreed upon absurdity.I actually disagree with this. If someone like pig or reo (not saying that they would, just using as an example) I would be interested in hearing what they had to say, because I value their opinion and their contributions to the scene are well noted.
i mean it's fox we really can't say shit. I think the video is stupid and him comparing something to Cyrax is completely ridiculous but it's whatever lol. At least he's educated in what to look for in a character.So, um...where's the torches and pitchforks at, folks?
This is grade-A material for people to start going nutty over. Is it because of who made it? If so, shame on you.
I should have been more clear. It was clear in the video that it was a response to a question (based off the image, "which characters will dominate injustice 2?"). My personal gripe is more with the question itself than Sonic's response. It's a classic case of a "headline grab" media question. At this stage, not even sonic knows who will "dominate." That's the point I was trying to make.I have to ask, in all seriousness, did you watch the video? He didn't spit out a tier list, he gave his thoughts on a portion of the cast, and spoke about who he wanted to play and who he speculated could be good. I mean, it's literally the same thing anyone talking about the game is doing he just did it in a video.
A bit of a false equivalency. He's talking about his opinions, not facts. His opinions about the game hold more weight as the king of NRS games. Even still it should be taken with a grain of salt at this point, but nowhere in the video did he assert his opinion as an absolute fact. He's just talking about what he's seen and based on what he's seen who he thinks will be good."Well Isaac Newton studied in Alchemy, do you suppose you know more than Isaac Newton?" Fallacy.
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At this point, people probably don't have the energy to complain since it's become the standard. Who cares about pre-release tier lists. The entire reason I find them fun these last weeks were to see how wrong people would be.So, um...where's the torches and pitchforks at, folks?
This is grade-A material for people to start going nutty over. Is it because of who made it? If so, shame on you.
Which is fine. We all do it. I doubt anyone interested in Inj2 hasn't speculated.A bit of a false equivalency. He's talking about his opinions, not facts. His opinions about the game hold more weight as the king of NRS games. Even still it should be taken with a grain of salt at this point, but nowhere in the video did he assert his opinion as an absolute fact. He's just talking about what he's seen and based on what he's seen who he thinks will be good.
If it was the same exact thread with the video, it probably wouldn't get much of a reaction at all as no one would care what I have to say, lol.Which is fine. We all do it. I doubt anyone interested in Inj2 hasn't speculated.
What would be the reaction if you or I made this thread? And why? The statement has nothing to do with actual game talent, as in literally nothing. The hypocrisy comes in where an agreed upon absurdity becomes worthwhile speculation because of the source. If something is ridiculous it is ridiculous, plain and simple.
But whenever a top player makes ANY content, to me it should be encouraged ALMOST no matter want. Almost being a key word, here. The more content the better. More and more top players have secret chats (I know this personally) and they don't want to share stuff publicly because they don't wanna deal with pretty much stuff like people are saying ITT. It's not really a safe space mentality, it's more of they'd rather discuss it with other good players rather than get chastised in the public for actually trying to help.If it was the same exact thread with the video, it probably wouldn't get much of a reaction at all as no one would care what I have to say, lol.
this is it. I like that Sonic did this, my point is that I wish we could see more opinions and speculation on our FORUMS without "retinal aids" "eye cancer alert" etc and whatever other phrase is flavor of the month from people with absolutely zero to contribute themselvesWhich is fine. We all do it. I doubt anyone interested in Inj2 hasn't speculated.
What would be the reaction if you or I made this thread? And why? The statement has nothing to do with actual game talent, as in literally nothing. The hypocrisy comes in where an agreed upon absurdity becomes worthwhile speculation because of the source. If something is ridiculous it is ridiculous, plain and simple.