Quan Chi Frame Data

Discussion in 'Quan Chi' started by Somberness, Sep 29, 2011.

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  1. Somberness

    Somberness Lights Staff Member

    How to understand this.
    Execution
    1 - 11
    1,1 - 19
    1,1,2 - 22
    1,1,3 - 16
    2 - 14
    2,1 - 21
    2,1,2 - 16
    2,1,4 - 19
    2,1,U+3 - 21
    3 - 15
    4 - 22
    D+1 - 11
    D+2 - 7
    D+3 - 7
    D+4 - 12
    B+1 - 12
    B+1,1 - 15
    B+2 - 19
    B+2,1 - 15
    B+2,4 - 15
    B+3 - 17
    B+3,1+2 - 27
    B+3,3 - 13
    B+4 - 15
    F+1 - 16
    F+1,2 - 22
    F+1,2,1+2 - 23
    F+4 - 15
    U+3 - 26
    Throw - 10
    Ground Burst - 21
    Skull Ball - 21
    Skull Ball (full screen) - 50
    Sky Drop - 36
    Trance - 25
    Ground Blast - 21
    Skull Chomp - 21
    Skull Chomp (full screen) - 50
    Sky Stomp - 35
    Mesmerize - 25
    Amulet Assault - 23

    Block Advantage
    1 - 0
    1,1 - 0
    1,1,2 - 0
    1,1,3 - -9
    2 - -1
    2,1 - 0
    2,1,2 - -2
    2,1,4 - -19
    2,1,U+3 - -20
    3 - -10
    4 - -5
    D+1 - -15
    D+2 - -5
    D+3 - -7
    D+4 - 0
    B+1 - 0
    B+1,1 - -1
    B+2 - -12
    B+2,1 - 0
    B+2,4 - -14
    B+3 - -13
    B+3,1+2 - 0
    B+3,3 - -6
    B+4 - -1
    F+1 - -7
    F+1,2 - -1
    F+1,2,1+2 - 0
    F+4 - -6
    U+3 - -20
    Ground Burst - -9
    Skull Ball - -4
    Sky Drop - -36
    Trance - -35
    Skull Chomp - -4
    Sky Stomp - -36
    Mesmerize - -35
    Amulet Assault - -51

    Hit Advantage
    1 - 0
    1,1 - 0
    1,1,2 - +55, +38
    1,1,3 - +3
    2 - +3
    2,1 - +3
    2,1,2 - +2
    2,1,4 - +15, +12
    2,1,U+3 - +16, +12
    3 - +3
    4 - +10
    D+1 - -1
    D+1 (vs crouch) - -3
    D+2 - +28, +21
    D+3 - +3
    D+3 (vs crouch) - +10
    D+4 - +12
    D+4 (vs crouch) - +5
    B+1 - +4
    B+1,1 - +41, +24
    B+2 - -5
    B+2,1 - +62, +50
    B+2,4 - +25, +12
    B+3 - 0
    B+3,1+2 - +59, +48
    B+3,3 - +35, +18
    B+4 - +23, +15
    F+1 - +3
    F+1,2 - +3
    F+1,2,1+2 - +37, +9
    F+4 - +35, +23
    U+3 - +15, +11
    Forward Throw - +10
    Backward Throw - +9
    Ground Burst - +3
    Skull Ball - +8
    Sky Drop - +12
    Trance - +156
    Ground Blast - +19
    Skull Chomp - +42
    Sky Stomp - +12
    Mesmerize - +156
    Amulet Assault - +7

    Duration
    1 - 30
    1,1 - 45
    1,1,2 - 76
    1,1,3 - 78
    2 - 42
    2,1 - 59
    2,1,2 - 83
    2,1,4 - 103
    2,1,U+3 - 99
    3 - 45
    4 - 47
    D+1 - 32
    D+2 - 48
    D+3 - 20
    D+4 - 33
    B+1 - 34
    B+1,1 - 59
    B+2 - 58
    B+2,1 - 61
    B+2,4 - 80
    B+3 - 50
    B+3,1+2 - 65
    B+3,3 - 66
    B+4 - 43
    F+1 - 50
    F+1,2 - 70
    F+1,2,1+2 - 93
    F+4 - 48
    U+3 - 66
    Throw - 36
    Skeletal Boost - 77
    Ground Burst - 57
    Skull Ball - 52
    Sky Drop - 58 (27 before teleporting)
    Trance - 70
    Skeletal Buff - 77
    Ground Blast - 57
    Skull Chomp - 52
    Sky Stomp - 58 (27 before teleporting)
    Mesmerize - 70
    Amulet Assault - 101

    Cancel Advantage (block)
    1 - +19
    1,1 - +25
    1,1,2 - +27
    1,1,3 - +18
    2 - +26
    2,1 - +25
    2,1,2 - +26
    3 - +17
    4 - +6
    D+1 - 0
    D+3 - +2
    D+4 - +26
    B+1 - +22
    B+1,1 - +26
    B+2 - +22
    B+3 - +17
    B+3,1+2 - +28
    B+3,3 - +23
    F+1 - +23
    F+1,2 - +26
    U+3 - +16

    Cancel Advantage (hit)
    1 - +25
    1,1 - +44
    1,1,2 - +76, +59
    1,1,3 - +30
    2 - +30
    2,1 - +23
    2,1,2 - +30
    3 - +30
    4 - +21
    D+1 - +14
    D+1 (vs crouch) - +12
    D+3 - +12
    D+3 (vs crouch) - +19
    D+4 - +32
    D+4 (vs crouch) - +25
    B+1 - +21
    B+1,1 - +67, +50
    B+2 - +29
    B+3 - +30
    B+3,1+2 - +78, +67
    B+3,3 - +64, +47
    F+1 - +33
    F+1,2 - +30
    U+3 - +52, +47

    Miscellaneous
    Breaker (when grounded vs grounded opponent) - ~+26, ~+25
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  2. spongebob

    spongebob ಠ__ಠ

    oh my god look how blindingly fast seketal boost is.
  3. BigDaddyKrames

    BigDaddyKrames New Member

    Good data, but :r+:bp should be :r+:fp. Wow, 11-frame d+1.. that's even slower than I thought it was. And thank god the EX Sky Drop is 1 frame faster >_>.
  4. ETC AdmiralAugustus

    ETC AdmiralAugustus Grapple Frazzled Premium Supporter

    Lol so basically his only single digit attack speeds are his d3 and uppercut? I knew I was gonna be depressed when I saw this.

    EDIT: Nevermind, I read this right after looking at JC frame data. Those normals aren't that bad. I'm not that depressed anymore.
  5. Somberness

    Somberness Lights Staff Member

    Fixed f1 to the actual value, this is what happens when you don't know the character and try to memorize the inputs.
  6. Error

    Error Official Black Adam Downplayer

    PSN:
    Pittyfulme
    Does anyone in the game have a slower D1?
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  7. CY MasterHavik

    CY MasterHavik Master of Chaos and Jax Premium Supporter

    wow those special moves are like the martix.
  8. Error

    Error Official Black Adam Downplayer

    PSN:
    Pittyfulme
    Except they don't dodge anything :D
  9. CY MasterHavik

    CY MasterHavik Master of Chaos and Jax Premium Supporter

    I'm glad you get the joke Error. I was saying they were slow as shit. I'm shocked his normals are that fast.
  10. THTB

    THTB #BlackRanger Staff Member

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    His specials actually aren't that slow, at least burst and trance aren't. For AOE attacks, that's actually average. His normals are slightly sluggish, though his d1 is by far one of the worst in the game if not the worst. His 7f uppercut does make up for it, somewhat.

    I was surprised that 1 was 11f. That's actually pretty close to average for a jab.
  11. Error

    Error Official Black Adam Downplayer

    PSN:
    Pittyfulme
    Was this done with the new patch in effect, 4 was sped up a lot.
  12. Orange Soda

    Orange Soda New Member

    Trance only 25? Feels like at least 60, a full second, of recovery!
  13. BigDaddyKrames

    BigDaddyKrames New Member

    That's because it is; the data in the OP is just the frames until activation, save Skeletal Boost.
  14. Somberness

    Somberness Lights Staff Member

    Yes, and the speed is deceiving as he doesn't even lift is foot off the ground until 15 frames in.

    Trance on block is -35.
  15. Primal Raptor

    Primal Raptor Quan-Cheesy

    i was watching gameplay from online from a while back and i saw that the trance took almost four whole seconds to finish. on a block it would take 2.5. he was too slow. thankfully they buffed him.
  16. ETC AdmiralAugustus

    ETC AdmiralAugustus Grapple Frazzled Premium Supporter

    [MENTION=3937]Somberness[/MENTION]

    Is there anyway we can get hit advantage and block advantage data? No rush
  17. yautjared

    yautjared your move, creep. Premium Supporter

    hum, so Quan Chi has not a 6 frames move anyway ? Interesting ....

    Quan Chi, in fact, looks like a balanced dude, with normal speed moves, but with very good combo strings, that hits low + overhead, pretty dangerous in close combat. I see him as a pure strategic character, that works cunning his way through the fight.
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  18. GNG Iniquity

    GNG Iniquity Lobo Duck for DLC! No moar batz!

    Sorry to keep bugging you Somberness , but could you please finish/update Quan's frame data? :)
  19. 1man3letters

    1man3letters OBS - Alpha Tarkatan - Hellfire Moderator Staff Member Premium Supporter

    would anyone happen to know how many frames disadvantage quan chi is at after landing from whiffed skydrop?
    also is it the same disadvantage from the enhanced skydrop?
  20. Angel Oleander

    Angel Oleander Hellfire & DoomStroke.

    *looks at Quan's normals*

    *looks at Cyblax's normals*


    *weeps*
  21. ETC AdmiralAugustus

    ETC AdmiralAugustus Grapple Frazzled Premium Supporter

    Will put out for hit/block/cancel adv frame data
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  22. GNG Iniquity

    GNG Iniquity Lobo Duck for DLC! No moar batz!

    Somberness ain't down widd da cheese man! :( Though, perhaps this works to his advantage...lol
  23. Relaxedstate

    Relaxedstate PTH|RM Relaxedstate Staff Member

    How m any frames of disadvantage is he at after a 11 check? can only pokes punish that?
  24. ETC AdmiralAugustus

    ETC AdmiralAugustus Grapple Frazzled Premium Supporter

    Hes at -1000000


    To be honest its prolly neutral, or negative a little bit.

    Still putting out.....
  25. Error

    Error Official Black Adam Downplayer

    PSN:
    Pittyfulme
    I think he's negative by a little bit and probably neutral after 1

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