Noob Saibot Frame Data

Discussion in 'Noob Saibot' started by Somberness, Jan 19, 2012.

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  1. Wemfs

    Wemfs Shadow Tier

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    At sweet distance a blocked shadow charge is full combo punishable by anyone in the cast I'd say. Not sure what the disadvantage at sweep would be, but it can't be far off from -21
     
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  2. THTB

    THTB #BlackRanger
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    Give or take, like -18ish. But then there's the pushback.
     
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  3. Trini_Bwoi

    Trini_Bwoi Late night organ donor

    a sweep distance tackle would probably be the equivalent of ending a blocked B1,2,1,4 with a tackle which is definitely full combo punishable by most of the cast, I've had Sub-Zeros dash forward with their 9f 2 to punish it.
     
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  4. Somberness

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    That's exactly what I got.
     
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  5. Wemfs

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    I wonder what a safe distance is then for a blocked shadow tackle. Probably a little more than half screen.
     
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  6. THTB

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    Haha, this is how you can tell I understand frame data way too well.
     
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  7. Trini_Bwoi

    Trini_Bwoi Late night organ donor

    man nrs, that's why this string is becomes blockable on hit on some characters like kitana.
     
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  8. Wemfs

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    I thought it was only blockable on hit by Kitana and Kitana only.
     
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  9. Trini_Bwoi

    Trini_Bwoi Late night organ donor

    if you land the b2 at a distance almost everyone can block the 1. but yea point blank only kitana blocks it.
     
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  10. D. R.

    D. R. GOD-Tier

    ^^True statement. Solid character NRS.
     
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  11. M_TRICKZz

    M_TRICKZz Noob

    Max range up shadow +10 and +4 regularly on block.....I have plans :) Great plans!!!!!!!
     
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  12. Icy X

    Icy X Noob


    Wait.... So on block 1~upknee leaves you at +4 still? If 1~ is +18 and duration of upknee is 16, wouldn't that leave you at +2 not +4???
     
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  13. Cancel advantage is only for the "Gaps" between the string you are using and the special move to see if you can be poked out. Up knee is the last thing to hit the opponent, so your block advantage is +4 (up to +11 at certain distances).
     
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  14. iroku

    iroku Noob

    doesn't matter. what counts is the last hit/blocked hit
    With Uppknee you get +4 when they block that special.

    In other words you made the db3 inputs and it came in 16 frames( if it hits its over, if its blocked its over, if it whifs it lasts 39frames) and if they blocked it you get 4 frames advantage on the player. If you both jump you´ll jump before he does, if you both throw a 10 frame special or hit you will win, etc etc etc.

    Even if you do 1,2 upknee, on block what really counts is the upknee, since it was the last hit.
     
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  15. iroku

    iroku Noob

    hell with a 6frame d1. I want a 7 frame d2 like jax! GTFO
     
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  16. RunwayMafia

    RunwayMafia You may die now.

    So Krys9984 and I are doing a video for Jade on when to EN Glow during block strings. What strings for Noob do you know FOR SURE have gaps? Somberness
     
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  17. Wemfs

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    Never mind. I understand now.
     
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  18. Chongo

    Chongo I'm silent and deadly

  19. Wemfs

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    Does the Ex Blackhole have 85 active frames as well?
     
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