TackyHaddock
Salty Mashers Krew
Good stuff - let us continue our noble mission of destroying Lao!
Good stuff - let us continue our noble mission of destroying Lao!
Kung Lao doesn't impose anything on (particularly) Kung Jin that he doesn't impose on the rest of the cast. He's obviously a very good character with many options and we have to deal with him the same way others do; however, our options are not rendered useless in the match-up.
Our dive kick, nj2, Shaolin dive bomb, and other important footsie tools that we can use on most of the cast is punished by spin in my experience. And we can't zone because tele is so fast that he can punish on reaction. We literally just have to block, take chip and hope we can punish. Kung Lao has better pressure, higher damage, better punish, better wakeup, better anti-zoning.
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Can I ask why? Does Kung Jin want him at a range or up close and end with b3,4 (I believe that's the input) I'm not trying to argue, I just wanna know the pros and cons
You can also do b3,4. I saw REO do that a few times when he was using KJ. I even end a combo in F3 sometimes for the hard knockdown and oki follow up.
Yes sir! Added damage is important for Kung Jin and run cancel 34 is not hard to land after practicing.
No sir. Life happens and I get side tracked. I'll try to fix it soon man.
There is life outside of Kung Jin swag? I had no idea!
Lol your good, i started off with the rc combos and was just wondering if those were the most optimal or what, ive watched previous matches of bojutsu and everyone was doing the combos listed but they werent getting the same dmg or were ending them differently. Real life always comes first, give me a tag if you get around to updating it if you dont mind.
Yeah delayed wakeups can be very annoying if you are accustomed to just rushing in and trying to get some oki in right off the bat. I will often run in as if I'm going to immediately start with the pressure and instead just block. this is good both for baiting wakeups and waiting the second or two for their delayed wakeup to end - you can then block the attack they attempt after their delayed wakeup and perform the mixup you would otherwise have done right away. I suppose this is a universal thing, not really just a Kung Jin thing, but delayed wakeups are arguably most annoying for Kung Jin since he relies so much on oki.
Meaning you can just spasm and press buttons and combos come out.
That's a dated claim, especially taking all Kung Jin's variations into account. Many would now agree that Boneshaper Shinnok is the easiest character execution-wise. And even if Bojutsu combos are easy to learn, it doesn't mean that it is a cakewalk playing the character against top players at a high level. He still has many difficult matchups, which is probably why we are seeing very few Kung Jins in top 8s anymore.
I use Kotal Khan as my main. I also play Jax, Jason, Ermac, and Quan Chi.
I'm not trolling here. What I'm saying is the truth. If you can't play a grown-up's character, how is that my fault?
I'm not immune to reason or simply going to dismiss everything as hate. The part that annoys me is the suggestion that anyone can win with Kung Jin at any level because he is easy execution wise. That is simply not true. Amongst beginners, I think you are correct - a beginner that picks up Kung Jin against other beginners with different characters will arguably have a leg up. However, that is not the case at higher levels. The point I made above is that we are really not seeing many Kung Jins in top 8s at tournaments anymore. I think the reason for this is that he has many difficult matchups when other characters are used by very good players. This is why I am sticking with this character, because there is still a challenge in showing that he can compete with top Kung Laos, Raidens, and other top tier opponents.
I just can't feel good about anything done by anyone with a character that takes no execution skill. I'm also not going to give props to anyone who does anything with him. If anyone uses him in a tournament, I'll root against that player - or I'll walk away and do something else. If I run into Kung Jins online, I don't care how good they are. In my mind, they stink. In my mind, execution should be a part of the game.
