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Fools, Zod is a well-balanced character.

Is Zod well-balanced?


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TotteryManx

cr. HP Master
Hey guys, remember when the community thought Cyrax was fair because he never won anything? This is equally stupid.
Cryax may have been ridiculous, but he wasn't so absurd that he dominated tournaments. If he was so broken/easy everyone would have picked him up to win. Is this not THE tournament site of NRS games? If tournament wins aren't accounted for something here..then what is? Players that are so bad at the game that they can't beat the 2nd or 3rd best character? Also, looking back..Kabal was a lot more dominant than Cyrax..should of used that as an example.
 

pumpkincream

superman reset specialist
Cryax may have been ridiculous, but he wasn't so absurd that he dominated tournaments. If he was so broken/easy everyone would have picked him up to win. Is this not THE tournament site of NRS games? If tournament wins aren't accounted for something here..then what is? Players that are so bad at the game that they can't beat the 2nd or 3rd best character?
according to your logic, mileena and jax would be considered uber broken tier due to their tournament dominance and green arrow in injustice is top tier due to his tournament resume



tournament results do not = broken character. a character can be broken and not win a tournament or place high
 

Chakk dizzle

That's baaaaane
Cryax may have been ridiculous, but he wasn't so absurd that he dominated tournaments. If he was so broken/easy everyone would have picked him up to win. Is this not THE tournament site of NRS games? If tournament wins aren't accounted for something here..then what is? Players that are so bad at the game that they can't beat the 2nd or 3rd best character? Also, looking back..Kabal was a lot more dominant than Cyrax..should of used that as an example.
That isn't how it works though dude. If that's the case then Green arrow is top 10 in this game based on tournament results.
 

TotteryManx

cr. HP Master
according to your logic, mileena and jax would be considered uber broken tier due to their tournament dominance and green arrow in injustice is top tier due to his tournament resume



tournament results do not = broken character. a character can be broken and not win a tournament or place high
Whoa, whoa. I never once said specifically that "tournament wins=broken character." In fact, if you read my post, I admit Cyrax was ridiculous, but he obviously wasn't ridiculous enough to be a problem in the tournament scene. I thought tournaments were what mattered at this website? If that is what matters, then how is Cyrax in 2014 still a problem? Or Zod for that matter? "Zod has this and that.".......well what exactly is your point? Where is this damage he is causing in the tournament scene that is hurting it or warrants a ban or something absurd? From your logic, "hey guys, Zod isn't doing shit in tournament play, but he is a really big problem and we need to do something." You would think Zod is Algol in SCIV or some shit lol.
 

TotteryManx

cr. HP Master
That isn't how it works though dude. If that's the case then Green arrow is top 10 in this game based on tournament results.
*smh* lol. My point is that Zod isn't that big of deal atm. He has great representation and nothing has happened to warrant a "hell better break loose" situation. He isn't Algol. He doesn't break the game and render everyone other character useless. From this thread people are talking like he is broken. If this was a casual/online gameplay site like MKU I wouldn't even be in this thread typing, BUT this is suppose to be a tournament site. If that is the case, and we look to results, then there is nothing to see here. If that isn't the case..I will leave this thread lol.
 

juicepouch

blink-182 enthusiast
Cryax may have been ridiculous, but he wasn't so absurd that he dominated tournaments. If he was so broken/easy everyone would have picked him up to win. Is this not THE tournament site of NRS games? If tournament wins aren't accounted for something here..then what is? Players that are so bad at the game that they can't beat the 2nd or 3rd best character? Also, looking back..Kabal was a lot more dominant than Cyrax..should of used that as an example.
I would argue that Cyrax not dominating had more to do with the ridiculousness of Kabal/Kenshi than it had to do with him not being stupid ridiculous lol
 

TotteryManx

cr. HP Master
I would argue that Cyrax not dominated had more to do with the ridiculousness of Kabal/Kenshi than it had to do with him not being stupid ridiculous lol
Thank you..that is actually a part of my whole point right now. "Kabal was a lot more dominant." Which brings me to Injustice...How many tournaments has MMH won compared to Zod? Who is the real problem in this game?
 

pumpkincream

superman reset specialist
Whoa, whoa. I never once said specifically that "tournament wins=broken character." In fact, if you read my post, I admit Cyrax was ridiculous, but he obviously wasn't ridiculous enough to be a problem in the tournament scene. I thought tournaments were what mattered at this website? If that is what matters, then how is Cyrax in 2014 still a problem? Or Zod for that matter? "Zod has this and that.".......well what exactly is your point? Where is this damage he is causing in the tournament scene that is hurting it or warrants a ban or something absurd? From your logic, "hey guys, Zod isn't doing shit in tournament play, but he is a really big problem and we need to do something." You would think Zod is Algol in SCIV or some shit lol.
tournament results are all that matter for players, not characters.

pre patch kf and pre patch cyborg must have "not been a problem' according to your thinking logic since they didn't place top 8 or win tournaments. they were extremely broken and reeked of problematic issues for the longevity of the game.
 

pumpkincream

superman reset specialist
Thank you..that is actually a part of my whole point right now. "Kabal was a lot more dominant." Which brings me to Injustice...How many tournaments has MMH won compared to Zod? Who is the real problem in this game?
kabal was a lot more dominant in mk9 becuase of reo. take out all of reos wins and truck load of grand final appearences, and kabal has less wins than mileena and is around the same level with jax / kl in tournament stats

mmh hasn't won much in injsutice because we only have 2 north east players truly representing the character and they both don't travel
 

juicepouch

blink-182 enthusiast
Thank you..that is actually a part of my whole point right now. "Kabal was a lot more dominant." Which brings me to Injustice...How many tournaments has MMH won compared to Zod? Who is the real problem in this game?
The real problem is Grundy getting screwed by throw immunity :(

EDIT: QUICK MK9 DISCUSSION OVER BEFORE @pumpkincream GETS GOING ABOUT KABAL DOWNPLAYING
 

TotteryManx

cr. HP Master
kabal was a lot more dominant in mk9 becuase of reo. take out all of reos wins and truck load of grand final appearences, and kabal has less wins than mileena and is around the same level with jax / kl in tournament stats
I guess you didn't follow that game much...before REO there was Michaelangelo/Eric Warda, and during REO's run was Detroitballin, all representing the character. If I remember correctly, Michaelangelo won 3 tournaments in a row with Kabal lol. Anyway, I'm over this debate. On to Ra Helios lol.
 

pumpkincream

superman reset specialist
I guess you didn't follow that game much...before REO there was Michaelangelo, Eric Warda, and during REO Detroitballin all representing the character. If I remember correctly, Michaelangelo won 3 tournaments in a row with Kabal lol. Anyway, I'm over this debate. On to Ra Helios lol.
michaelangelo won revelations which was the same day as a major which had over 200 participants (ceo). he also won ncr which the top 5 consisted of people who played mk9 as their 4th side game - justin wong, flow, valle. he won ect wich was a lot more in the lines of a major than the previous two. detroitballn only won mlg anaheim with kabal. many can argue he was more successful with shang. erik warda didn't win any majors with kabal and slowly shifted into a jax player before quitting the scene
 

TotteryManx

cr. HP Master
michaelangelo won revelations which was the same day as a major which had over 200 participants (ceo). he also won ncr which the top 5 consisted of people who played mk9 as their 4th side game - justin wong, flow, valle. he won ect wich was a lot more in the lines of a major than the previous two. detroitballn only won mlg anaheim with kabal. he was more successful with shang. erik warda didn't win any majors with kabal and slowly shifted into a jax player before quitting the scene
What about all the top 8 placements with Kabal? Also, are you taking away Michaelangelo's accomplishments? Shame on you.
 

DevilMaySpy

Mama's Little Bumgorf
according to your logic, mileena and jax would be considered uber broken tier due to their tournament dominance and green arrow in injustice is top tier due to his tournament resume



tournament results do not = broken character. a character can be broken and not win a tournament or place high
That isn't how it works though dude. If that's the case then Green arrow is top 10 in this game based on tournament results.
Thank you. I am tired of politely explaining that Arrow would be top 5 if we allowed this logic to fly. People need to stop with "X is fine because they haven't won anything."
 
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TotteryManx

cr. HP Master
Thank you. I am tired of politely explaining that Arrow would be top 5 if we allowed this logic to fly. People need to stop with "X is fine because they haven't won anything."
Ok...lets put this aside for one second and let me ask you a serious question. Does winning matter in your eyes? That should be all that matters if you're a player. Guess what? Hasn't been done with that so called "broken character." Also, I've replied directly to you and those posts you quoted. I believe you are just stubborn and upset about Zod is all.
 

pumpkincream

superman reset specialist
What about all the top 8 placements with Kabal? Also, are you taking away Michaelangelo's accomplishments? Shame on you.
who is taking away michaelangelos accomplishments? i'm telling you exactly what they were. miachaelangelo won 1 major and 2 arguable regionals in the span of 2 months. one of them even had kabals prepatch block infinite intact

kabal players that placed top 8 (without counting reo's placements) is along the same lines as all of the kung lao, mileena, reptile, and kitana players who placed top 8. it's even below all the times jax has placed top 8.
 

TotteryManx

cr. HP Master
who is taking away michaelangelos accomplishments? i'm telling you exactly what they were. miachaelangelo won 1 major and 2 arguable regionals in the span of 2 months.

kabal players that placed top 8 (without counting reo's placements) is along the same lines as all of the kung lao, mileena, reptile, and kitana players who placed top 8. it's even below all the times jax has placed top 8.
You took away from his accomplishments by announcing who was or wasn't at his tournament wins, so you could downplay Kabal for you righteous Cyrax/Zod movement lmao....no but seriously..mad respect for actually replying with a debate instead of being awkward/girly.