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Marvaz

Marvaz

come at me
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This fallowing post was made in my local fighting game scene facebook group by a local player NOT myself-​
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So my injustice 12 hours of straight theory craft has yielded me the mathematical conclusion that deathstroke is lowtier ​

One meter =10% with proper positioning with my 8 frame full screen low on block ​

Using meter as I gain it I should gain 16 meters if I never land a hit and should I earn a hit ​
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With my bnb doing around 28% (25% with meter and out of the corner 34% in corner) on average that means meter yielding 160% and clean hits cleaning up I MUST land 2 clean hits AND HAVE optimal zoning capability the remainder of the round​
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Thats against people who dont allow me to zone freely​
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That being said I dont think death stroke can win AT ALL against anyone who knows this ​
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Meter chip is vital to deathstroke winning at high levels and unless my opponent just bitches up (like most of the idiots on psn) and lets me rape them deathstroke may be the worst char in the game......​
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His ONLY over head is 31 frames (easily reactable) and his go to low is average at 15 frames​
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None of his normals frame trap with +frames and he well......he fucking sucks up close​
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Deathstroke fucking sucks​
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My online ranked record with him is 390-12 I beat everyone (everyone in reno also) the first time I play them ​
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But thats it the character is 100% gimmick and honestly dosent even have a single 6-4 matchup everyone is 7-3 or worse NOT in deathstrokes favor ​
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The character needs a dp of some kind to make sense ​
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Half second armor moves that can be. Baited or reacted to dont cut it​
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Deathstroke is low tier and he got a 20% damage nerf? Fuck netherrealms for listening to scrubs​
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I am gonna keep playing him cause its fucking deathstroke and he is fucking badass but fuck........why is he so bad?​
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Blargh so salty​
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Enenra

Enenra

Go to hell.
You should've gone to pornhub and rubbed one out before you made this thread. There is so much I could respond to, but really, you'll realize what's wrong with a little less semen in you.

EDIT: You really should add the disclaimer this wasn't you. Your buddy needs to get out some semen then.
 
Mikman360

Mikman360

Not the Milkman.
There is so much wrong in this thread right now that I literally dont have the time to respond to it at the moment. Just a few things I plan to correct when I have the time.

Normal BnB = 28%? None of Deathstroke's BnBs should do this little.
He "****ing sucks up close?" Frame traps and mixups to come.
Only 1 overhead? Last I check, F3 and B2 were overheads.
 
Gesture Required Ahead

Gesture Required Ahead

Get on that hook
hmm...First the Upplaying, now the Downplaying. Well, not really 'cause that info is full of bull.

Although I appreciated the write-up, the information is, well... VERY VERY INACCURATE. This looks like an essay I'd write about politics.
 
B

Badboy Takuma

Noob
Marvaz said:
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This fallowing post was made in my local fighting game scene facebook group​
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So my injustice 12 hours of straight theory craft has yielded me the mathematical conclusion that deathstroke is lowtier ​

One meter =10% with proper positioning with my 8 frame full screen low on block ​

Using meter as I gain it I should gain 16 meters if I never land a hit and should I earn a hit ​
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With my bnb doing around 28% (25% with meter and out of the corner 34% in corner) on average that means meter yielding 160% and clean hits cleaning up I MUST land 2 clean hits AND HAVE optimal zoning capability the remainder of the round​
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Thats against people who dont allow me to zone freely​
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That being said I dont think death stroke can win AT ALL against anyone who knows this ​
​
Meter chip is vital to deathstroke winning at high levels and unless my opponent just bitches up (like most of the idiots on psn) and lets me rape them deathstroke may be the worst char in the game......​
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His ONLY over head is 31 frames (easily reactable) and his go to low is average at 15 frames​
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None of his normals frame trap with +frames and he well......he fucking sucks up close​
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Deathstroke fucking sucks​
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My online ranked record with him is 390-12 I beat everyone (everyone in reno also) the first time I play them ​
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But thats it the character is 100% gimmick and honestly dosent even have a single 6-4 matchup everyone is 7-3 or worse NOT in deathstrokes favor ​
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The character needs a dp of some kind to make sense ​
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Half second armor moves that can be. Baited or reacted to dont cut it​
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Deathstroke is low tier and he got a 20% damage nerf? Fuck netherrealms for listening to scrubs​
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I am gonna keep playing him cause its fucking deathstroke and he is fucking badass but fuck........why is he so bad?​
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Blargh so salty​
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Showtime

Showtime

Reptile/Sonya
Deathstroke doesn't have a F3? Op wait Everyone has that overhead

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RoboCop

RoboCop

The future of law enforcement.
Administrator
Premium Supporter
This has to be a troll post, because absolutely none of that information is correct. Deathstroke has plenty of frame-traps, his b2 is an overhead, low shot is 10 frames, most of his combos do between 25% and 36%, and he's totally capable of holding his own in close-quarters combat.
 
Hitoshura

Hitoshura

Head Cage
I don't think hes bottom tier, but I also don't think he is top tier either. He is either upper mid-mid tier. I know people think I'm crazy, but I played a similar character for 2 1/2 years in MK9 and I see a lot of characteristics in Deathstroke that my main shared. Ill explain pros and cons.

***I also want to add a disclaimer that I'm no Deathstroke pro at all, but these are points I do want to share with people. TBQH I think my deathstroke is quite ass, haha.***

Pros
  • Zoning tools can hit most places on screen
  • Build Meter quickly
  • Good chip damage (Until Tuesday)
  • Good Anti Airs
  • Good Damage on his bnb's
  • f23 is +9
  • 3 is +4
  • Has a nice frame trap upclose
  • Good 50/50
  • Breaks Armored Moves
  • With great yomi can be deadly
Cons
  • Zoning does not keep people out like a lot of zoners in FGS. Opponent will get in soon enough and its to deal with certain characters upclose.
  • Guns are punishable from close-midscreen distance and get punished easily
  • Standing Quick Shot is punishable on whiff
  • On hit and block quick shot DOES NOT push opponent back nor keep them at bay. They can advance every single time you land a hit no matter what
  • Not many safe strings like MOST of the cast.
  • Gets merc'd by heavy rushdown characters who are + on block with most of their strings *cough cough upper tier*
  • One bad read when opponent is close to you can equal trouble, if not death.
  • His strings are not as fast as some of the characters in the game, so punishing strings can be a bitch outside of using d1 xx sword flip and f23 xx sword flip. Although if opponent decides for some reason to immediately block after a safe or + string and you land a f23 while their blocking then good for you, lol.
  • Super Kinda sucks, lets face it lol
  • Corner damage is not much better than midscreen, but leads to nice setups. (More of neutral than con, but w/e lol)
  • Due to slow walk speed footsies are weird with DS. If this games walk speed was better DS would be better just because he be a character with great footsie tbqh.
  • Startup on trait is really slow. This makes using it when opponent is knocked down useless because they can wakeup and dash in before you can recover from activation, plus the fact that after trait has finished you gun shots will be useless for a few seconds. This makes it completely worthless in competitive play.
  • A block rifle shot and EX rifle shot grants the opponent a free dash in.
  • Rifle and EX rifles chip damage is garbage. You get a large percentage of damage from quick shot.
This is what I can think of off the top of my head. I see deathstroke anywhere between 9th-12th on a tier list. He is Upper mid-mid. There are just characters better than he is, but he is most definetley viable atm. Problem is their nerfing his chip damage and apparently MIGHT be adding more recovery on his quick shot. If that is he case for quick shot then his zoning abilities will go down :(.

I don't see myself dropping this character unless his recovery becomes ass. He is viable enough to enter a tournament with atm, but in time I do see people finding ways around him and characters have better tools in time. Only time can tell tbqh.
 
Rabbit

Rabbit

thugs bunny
Hitoshura said:
I don't see myself dropping this character unless his recovery becomes ass. He is viable enough to enter a tournament with atm, but in time I do see people finding ways around him and characters have better tools in time. Only time can tell tbqh.
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Plus the wait for DLC characters which might end up as DS annihilators.
There already are characters that make's DS's options super-linear (inb4 his play is already super-linear).
 
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