Well the good thing is once you knock her down it is harder for her to get up.Hey guys, just wondering if anybody could give me some advice when it comes to fighting Raven? I ran into a guy gamertagged AlextheGREAT (or something, he was good) who just completely blew me up with Raven and it occurred to me that I just don't know how to approach the matchup at all. Seems like everything I do gets me soul crushed or lifted unless I can land a knockdown with my shazam. Opinions?
Well the good thing is once you knock her down it is harder for her to get up.
She can punish any dashes or whiffed moves with soul crush, so you cant just throw those out. Lift will only hit you if you jump in or you try to follow up your offense after an unsafe string.
As shazam you basically want to try and knock her down(MB Torpedo could be good here) and keep her in his oki game.
It is probably really bad for Shazam though.
Aquaman beats her 6-4 and batman is 5-5 might be 6-4 Raven after the patch. Also isn't cat woman going to do way better vs batman after the patch?Thinking of picking up Raven as a sub for CW against Aquaman and Batman. Any tips on how to go about those two MUs?
4-6 is better than 3-7/2-8. And it looks like you're right bout the Bats MU, but it still looks pretty tricky meterless. Have to wait til 10-1 though lolAquaman beats her 6-4 and batman is 5-5 might be 6-4 Raven after the patch. Also isn't cat woman going to do way better vs batman after the patch?
Well then give Raven a try if you'd like. That's only like 3 days away.4-6 is better than 3-7/2-8. And it looks like you're right bout the Bats MU, but it still looks pretty tricky meterless. Have to wait til 10-1 though lol
Not as good as Raven willAquaman beats her 6-4 and batman is 5-5 might be 6-4 Raven after the patch. Also isn't cat woman going to do way better vs batman after the patch?
sometimes i feel like that too. but sometimes i also feel like shes the worst character in the game. the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.I can't stop thinking that Raven is the character flying waaay under the radar.
Exactly what I've been saying. The armor buffs don't change the mu in the slightest bit.Sami what problems do you have with multi-hit armor characters? Raven's zoning is always just one hit, so if Catwoman or Doomsday had 1, 2, or 99 hits of armor it would remain exactly the same for us, I believe. In fact, Raven is so resilient that even those HUGE buffs to Doomsday and Catwoman does not affect her that much
To be fair I am being slightly dramatic over it. The only real impact it had is that it made fullscreen charges harder to deal with, i.e. a character using their armour to pass through a projectile full-screen still can't be hit out of the charge by something as they're about to land on top of you. Very rare it happens in practice, but as I said I'm being dramatic as I fucking hate advancing armour lol.Sami what problems do you have with multi-hit armor characters? Raven's zoning is always just one hit, so if Catwoman or Doomsday had 1, 2, or 99 hits of armor it would remain exactly the same for us, I believe. In fact, Raven is so resilient that even those HUGE buffs to Doomsday and Catwoman does not affect her that much
Are there any match-ups that are extremely difficult? :/ Doomsday is probably her worst, and even that's not too horrific.Unless some new dirty tech is discovered she remains pretty well balanced. There are very few MUs that are free and and very few that are extremely difficult.
MB B3 still beats out multi-armor moves
Depends on the moveYeah but only on a read. You might be able to react to DD's shoulder charge if he does it far away.
What about air projectiles like lanterns rockets, harleys guns, and wingdings? It's not uncommon for those projectiles to be used relatively close, and they're easier to read.If a projectile is reflected it might be possible to punish it after you recover from the reflect. The only character I've tested so far is batman. If his batarangs are reflected at really close range he can be punished with lift or soul crush. This isn't that useful because of how close batman has to throw the batarang. Hopefully this concept ends up being useful for Raven though.
Have not tested everything yet.What about air projectiles like lanterns rockets, harleys guns, and wingdings? It's not uncommon for those projectiles to be used relatively close, and they're easier to read.