Aw, C'mon Puddin' -- Harley Quinn General Discussion Thread

[Jermball]

Thanks, but that's not what I'm asking, what I don't understand is when should I use these attacks, because while I'm playing, F2 and 3 seems too slow to be useful and after 112 I usually jump in 3 but it's not really a frame-trap.

My bad lol read that wrong. Its pretty much what ramon said. training your opponent to respect your approach. I also like to use b3 and tantrum stance 3 to cause fear (and they're safe on block

 

[Laos_boy]

My bad lol read that wrong. Its pretty much what ramon said. training your opponent to respect your approach. I also like to use b3 and tantrum stance 3 to cause fear (and they're safe on block

Tantrum stance 3 is not safe on block. Saltface always punishes it when i use it against him.

 

[Jermball]

Didnt know. Never had anyone punish it before because the pushback. Thanks. One less thing ill be doing as much.


Also if j.3 is 8 frame start 8 frame recovery and +8 on block. Is it actually +8? kind of confused

 

[SaltFace NS]

Yea I punish with TS 1 for a full combo punish easily.

 

[Jermball]

Yea I punish with TS 1 for a full combo punish easily.

do you mean in harley mirrors? i'm curious about vs others, if that string is safe

 

[Kabbage]

Tantrum stance 3 is not safe on block. Saltface always punishes it when i use it against him.

Not safe. I get full combo'd by RapZiLLa54 on a blocked TS3 now (he figured it out). Best bet now for a blocked TS is to roll forward and hope they're standing there blocking and waiting for an attack to come out.

 

[Rude]

So what does everyone think about Harley's placement post-NEC? I've wanted to try this character since I saw her in one of the first IGAU trailers. Both TS Ramon and Kitana Prime had this character looking veeeeery good.

She looks like she has a tool for most situations, good damage, good range on some of her normals, safe 50/50, strong zoning. a command dash and a command grab, it seems like she has a lot of what you'd want in a character.

 

[dotunderscore]

She's great and the players are getting better and better. I loved seeing Kitana Prime's style with her. His match vs Cyborg was one of those that proves she has a winning path if you are willing to grind it out. Beyond just loving the character and her style I think Harley really brings out the player's style, skill, problem solving and dedication.

I don't think Harley is a character that you pick up and get a lot of matchups for free - every MU is winnable as well as losable. I think this is why don't see most of the high level Harley players with a secondary as you know there is a way - you just have to figure it out.

 

[DarksydeDash]

What are options after Play Doctor midscreen and corner?

 

[Rude]

What are Harley's air-to-air conversion BnBs?

 

[SaltFace NS]

Well boys & girls thanks to my efforts Harley has gotten her best placement yet (3rd Place). I fought my heart out & proved to everyone Harley can contend with the best of them. I hope I made you all believers in Harleen Quinnzel.

 

[xWildx]

Well boys & girls thanks to my efforts Harley has gotten her best placement yet (3rd Place). I fought my heart out & proved to everyone Harley can contend with the best of them. I hope I made you all believers in Harleen Quinnzel.

Your ability to sniff out and punish jump ins with her up-gun is crazy lol, amazing matches to watch

 

[SaltFace NS]

Your ability to sniff out and punish jump ins with her up-gun is crazy lol, amazing matches to watch

Thanks man. Everyone of those fights was a tough one to go through.

 

[Rude]

Thanks man. Everyone of those fights was a tough one to go through.

She's really good, man. But is she as good as....

LOOOOOOOOOOBOOOOOOO?!?!?!?!?

 

[SaltFace NS]

She's really good, man. But is she as good as....

LOOOOOOOOOOBOOOOOOO?!?!?!?!?

No way man she is way better than Lobo in the right hands.

 

[KIllaByte]

No way man she is way better than Lobo in the right hands.

Good stuff my man.
Jump 2 into air gunshot is my favorite annoying mixup of all time, and seeing you utilize it made me as giddy with joy as possible.

 

[Akromaniac27]

Good stuff my man.
Jump 2 into air gunshot is my favorite annoying mixup of all time, and seeing you utilize it made me as giddy with joy as possible.

Lol I LOVE LOVE LOVE using it against them d1/d2 mashers. Like damn, hop off the control for a sec ya know?

 

[KIllaByte]

Lol I LOVE LOVE LOVE using it against them d1/d2 mashers. Like damn, hop off the control for a sec ya know?

Make them deal with so many scenarios off of jump 2.

Jump 2, Back 2, 2 (combo) Overhead Low

Jump 2, forward 2 (combo) Overhead, slower Overhead

Jump 2, air gunshot, 4% or 9% and, can check with a Back 2 if you don't meterburn. Creates a safe jump in on hit on some characters. Overhead, then really fast overhead, then do whatever you want to after.

Jump 2, Overhead armor cancel for unpokable armored overhead Overhead armored overhead.

Jump 2, Back 2, overhead cancel overhead, low, overhead.

Mixups man.

 

[SaltFace NS]

Make them deal with so many scenarios off of jump 2.

Jump 2, Back 2, 2 (combo) Overhead Low

Jump 2, forward 2 (combo) Overhead, slower Overhead

Jump 2, air gunshot, 4% or 9% and, can check with a Back 2 if you don't meterburn. Creates a safe jump in on hit on some characters. Overhead, then really fast overhead, then do whatever you want to after.

Jump 2, Overhead armor cancel for unpokable armored overhead Overhead armored overhead.

Jump 2, Back 2, overhead cancel overhead, low, overhead.

Mixups man.

That's exactly why I do it lol...once you get someone trained hard enough then opening them up becomes easy. Hope I showed you guys great stuff with Harley.

 

[SaltFace NS]

I just wish more people took a liking to her & stick with her thick & thin just like I do.

These Harley forums have been dead...real dead

It's about time we all grow together.

 

[Akromaniac27]

I just wish more people took a liking to her & stick with her thick & thin just like I do.

These Harley forums have been dead...real dead

It's about time we all grow together.

I agree, but for me it's so damn hard to find good players and/or don't have horrendous connections to even get legit MU experience. I still stick with her anyways. I still use Sindel and Jade to this day lol. Much more rewarding using characters that rely solely on fundamentals as oppose to characters that do the work for you

 

[Kabbage]

I don't post much but I picked up Harley day one and never looked back

 

[Chokeapotamus]

I don't post much but I picked up Harley day one and never looked back

Same here, dude. Watching high-level Harley play is freakin' amazing--just wish I could put in more time to get to that level...

 

[Awkward Sloth]

I wish I could get at least to half of Salt Faces Level with Harley.

People should really know not to try to do cross up set ups on you Saltface. That silly slide anti cross up is so beastly.

 

[SaltFace NS]

I wish I could get at least to half of Salt Faces Level with Harley.

People should really know not to try to do cross up set ups on you Saltface. That silly slide anti cross up is so beastly.

It was my secret tech especially for characters like Batman that live off of J2 cross ups on Wake Up. Glad you like it.