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rev0lver

Come On Die Young
Once again dont agree on Kitana being bad agains him Kitana does really good vs Cage once Kitana has the life lead hes screwed if played properlly just runaway and spammbot mode on to the corner then fly away again and start over.
I don't think you understand how difficult it would be to get that significant life lead against a top Cage player. There's no denying that he beats her up close, and you're going to have to be in his face unless he's a dumbass that thinks iaf's are candy. I thought Kitana owned Cage before, then I played Maxter who actually knew zoning isn't a big deal and Kitana can't do shit but d1 you between strings.
 

Scoot Magee

But I didn't want to dash
Cans someone explain what kano does have to fight cage? Knives and up ball anti air? What does kano have on the ground to make it so cage is forced to jump at him?
 
I don't think you understand how difficult it would be to get that significant life lead against a top Cage player. There's no denying that he beats her up close, and you're going to have to be in his face unless he's a dumbass that thinks iaf's are candy. I thought Kitana owned Cage before, then I played Maxter who actually knew zoning isn't a big deal and Kitana can't do shit but d1 you between strings.
You need to condition your opponent to crouch unguarded whit the normal fans and the iafs once hes semy close and conditioned he most likely will eat a full combo whit f21 iv done it many times agains our contrys top Cage he might not be as good as curbo but hes definitelly good getting a life lead is not that hard also doing instant fly to check him so he defends crouched then just recklessly spam crap and fly away.
 

Scoot Magee

But I didn't want to dash
EX knives variation
choke
d1 AA

there you go
Why does cage need to jump when in the range that d1 will aa? BTW jump kick blows that up, and cage gets a knee into nut punch of jump kicks. Again I'm not very familiar with kano but outside of knives what does he have once cage gets in? Also is ex knives just to do chip and keep him out?
 

MagicMan357

"130 ms is more legit than Labbing" - TYM
Why does cage need to jump when in the range that d1 will aa? BTW jump kick blows that up, and cage gets a knee into nut punch of jump kicks. Again I'm not very familiar with kano but outside of knives what does he have once cage gets in?
once again, choke or upball or rely heavily on d4 or d3

its in cages favor but not 8-2 thats all im saying

also i dunno is people realise that knives beat out ex shadow alot of the time
 

Zwooosh

Worst Lao Ever.
You need to condition your opponent to crouch unguarded whit the normal fans and the iafs once hes semy close and conditioned he most likely will eat a full combo whit f21 iv done it many times agains our contrys top Cage he might not be as good as curbo but hes definitelly good getting a life lead is not that hard also doing instant fly to check him so he defends crouched then just recklessly spam crap and fly away.
F21? A good cage will see that from miles away and will already be walking back for the b3 whiff punish. Kitana can't win by trying to condition cage to crouch.
 

Scoot Magee

But I didn't want to dash
once again, choke or upball or rely heavily on d4 or d3

its in cages favor but not 8-2 thats all im saying

also i dunno is people realise that knives beat out ex shadow alot of the time
It just sounds like cage has way more than kano when he gets in, and he will. What's your opinion on the match 7-3? 6-4?
 

MagicMan357

"130 ms is more legit than Labbing" - TYM
It just sounds like cage has way more than kano when he gets in, and he will. What's your opinion on the match 7-3? 6-4?
its 6-4, johnny is obviously a better made character but kano can put up a fight

kanos worst is kabal, thats a freaking 9-1 LOL
 

rev0lver

Come On Die Young
You need to condition your opponent to crouch unguarded whit the normal fans and the iafs once hes semy close and conditioned he most likely will eat a full combo whit f21 iv done it many times agains our contrys top Cage he might not be as good as curbo but hes definitelly good getting a life lead is not that hard also doing instant fly to check him so he defends crouched then just recklessly spam crap and fly away.
Yeah. This doesn't fly anymore. I don't care if it's your country's top Cage, that's not how it works here.
 

salvificblood

Worst Sub-Zero Ever
HOW will Reptile get out? Please enlighten me.
HOW will Cage get in?

The point is, you were making an argument with little/no explanation. You just stated that cage will get in on Reptile eventually, and he will win. Those seem to be the only arguments people use to say Cage is too good.
 

Gesture Required Ahead

Get on that hook
HOW will Cage get in?

The point is, you were making an argument with little/no explanation. You just stated that cage will get in on Reptile eventually, and he will win. Those seem to be the only arguments people use to say Cage is too good.
Re-read my post. I clearly stated that It's not hard to get in on Reptile when you need to.Armor through forceballs and spit has shit recovery.

He even has a hard time backing up.LOL @ his walking speed.
 
HOW will Reptile get out? Please enlighten me.
maybe learn the matchup?

F32 is of course not very useful because of 6 frame dash.
F33b3 is your free ticket out, make them rspect the dash, which will beat everything cage does. if he tries to continue pressure.
F3 poke out if you make the read.
F33xxforceball useless, stand block all day, dosent really matter.
13xxforceball, not worth it, you get punished with elbow dash if the reptile player gets hit by the first ball.
11F1, poke if you read it, even if f1 lands theres a 50-50 f3 or elbow dash will win.

Now actually practice and learn the matchup.
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
HOW will Cage get in?

The point is, you were making an argument with little/no explanation. You just stated that cage will get in on Reptile eventually, and he will win. Those seem to be the only arguments people use to say Cage is too good.
Because Cage will eventually get in on Reptile. f3 does outspeed d4, d4 xx acid hand is not foolproof with acid hand being -4 on block. Reptile's non-EX projectiles have no pushback and aren't that fast. And Cage advances way too fast. Reptile's lucky he has armor and a 6f special that knocks down. Otherwise Cage would be winning this matchup easy.
 

Scoot Magee

But I didn't want to dash
maybe learn the matchup?

F32 is of course not very useful because of 6 frame dash.
F33b3 is your free ticket out, make them rspect the dash, which will beat everything cage does. if he tries to continue pressure.
F3 poke out if you make the read.
F33xxforceball useless, stand block all day, dosent really matter.
13xxforceball, not worth it, you get punished with elbow dash if the reptile player gets hit by the first ball.
11F1, poke if you read it, even if f1 lands theres a 50-50 f3 or elbow dash will win.

Now actually practice and learn the matchup.
So reptile guesses right in any of those situations and he gets a dash and can get out. If a dash is baited he eats a combo into more block pressure. I wouldn't suggest trying to poke out of cages pressure with reptile either.