Umm...what?
B3 is 32% into chip... I thought you might have found a way to punish with f4
Cages favor. Sometimes king would beat me really bad. I blame those losses on myself but kings one of the best players in the world so its not like i mind losing to him but sometimes i'd beat him pretty convincingly in that mu and I just felt the way he played made it easier to lock him down. But when i played foxy and his play style in that mu he was a lot harder to catch and most importantly a lot harder to read. But i played king a lot more so, that also plays a part. But If uppercuts was all you needed to stop bird lao, no one would of ever made a big deal about it. Uppercuts aren't consistent. It seemed like you couldn't really do it on reaction. I tried that a lot.
Oh so I was 5% off...
It's not a crossover dive kick. It's a cross over jump kick/dive kick (to make the dive kick safe because at point blank, the jump kick will hit you but the dive kick will whiff). And jump kick beats D1. In fact, in that case, the jk/dk will connect and Kung Lao can convert with F3~spin into 33% damage or so.
The upper cut or D1 conversion is not braindead but not hard enough to be discounted. When I play ESP_Lao I will catch him trying to dive kick out of the corner and catch a d1 pretty consistantly. It is enough of a threat to prevent Lao from mindlessly diving around
Well nobody makes THAT big of a deal of Bird Lao anymore. You can't react to jk/dk point blank. But you can do it if he's slightly away from you. Dizzy wasn't throwing these uppercuts on a read. He was reacting to Lao jumping over his head.
Well Like I mentioned, ermac is better off not going crazy on the zoning and just playing footsies in the midrange. So may it is something you are not used to ?
Dude, where did you read "deep jump kick"? It's an INSTANT jump kick into dive kick, which is the very opposite of deep jumping. That's exactly what bird lao is. And yeah, that's exactly why I said d1 wouldn't work because it is a high JK, and it would stuff it. You just made my point for me.
Na Kit vs Cage is 5-5. His CP is annoying but she controls the pace of the match. Its real tough for cage once she gets the lifelead, but its also real tough for kit if he gets in. She has the tools to deal with his pressure and she punishes him pretty hard, while he has the tools to deal with her footsies and overwhelms her with CPs and such.
Tbh. The only people I think who actually know what "Bird Lao" is, is foxy and people who have played him. Until I see a cage player go up against foxy's lao and make it look 6-4 , it'll always be atleast 5-5 to me. Unless that happens or a foxy grampa himself says he thinks its 6-4 then its 5-5 to me
Foxy does not break the mechanics of the game. Jk/dk will suddenly not stop being beaten by an uppercut because Foxy's doing it. Now, I'm sure he might use the tactic differently to some, or maybe have better spacing on his jk/dk but the concept, as well as the ways to beat it, remains the same. Move property, frame data, etc... don't change. I have a huge respect for Foxy and he is an innovator but this idea that you can just Jk/dk all day until your opponent gets super frustrated and it opens him up to other things only works to a certain extent. A good Cage who knows his spacing and punishes will not fall to the same routine gimmick without making adjustments, and I'm someone who genuinely believes Bird Lao is a good strategy that helps Kung Lao in some of his bad match-ups (notably Cage and Sonya).
No, but scorpion does
A teleport in a back to block game, man. Broken.No, but scorpion does
I'm just instigating shit, no worries.
True. I'm not saying he does. But the people who have played him think its a totally broken play style. And the people who haven't don't think that. I don't think that's a coincidence. He is bird lao. Theres not really another one out there. If you haven't played him, you might have a good idea of what I'm talking about but theres obviously a misunderstanding and something that's not getting across when you talk to people who haven't played him. He tried explaining in the skarlet vs kung lao forum and the only people who got it was the people that played him. Its dumb.
lol yeah I got that. I was playing along.
Lol I forgot about P1 BS. Well then, yea, its 6-4 Cage if he's P1. That crap was so dumb.
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