I think the majority of the complaints were based around the walk speed coupled with the dedicated dashes... that was my main complaint at least.
I'm aware of that. But walk speed appears to be greatly increased form injustice.
i am okay with safe 50 50 if it isn't a full combo
My first was MKT on N64, if they add it they add it, plus games didn't really have patches back then to fix glitches, so if there was one you just had to deal with it. Same as with characters who have amazing zoning/spacing tools. Spam doesn't exist unless you are talking about the deliciously salty luncheon meat
I go over this conversation with a lot of players and if a character has it, use it and abuse it until you can't anymore.
ex tp is fine because its meter dependent
why didn't you like it?
Fighting games that are both competitively and casually successful.
call of duty is "competitively" successful but i personally despise the game and think its a bad competitive game. I feel like there are a ton of improvement that can be made for nrs games to be good competitively. And i feel like going into the third iteration for me personally if the game doesn't play a certain way i am going to quit playing it. Which is probably a blessing in disguise.
it was also attached to a more balanced character, he had slow movement and pretty bad anti-zoning. This meant he could be a valid armor character because of his limitations in my eyes. Sonya happened to be a quick low hitbox character who also managed to have a very solid projectile and even better footsie tools than rain. she would be left in a position in which many characters had to take a risk after blocking her safe armored launcher on top of this. In my eyes, armor should be situation, and i should have a better option to punish armor on a read then neutral jump like a maniac, and perhaps the armor shouldn't eat so many hits. Or in the case of sonya's maybe it just shouldn't launch. Things like armor should be risky in my eyes because they can reverse pressure. Risk reward management is a huge issue in nrs games.
if CoD is competitively successful how can it be a bad competitive game?
Yes zoning is a repetitive tactic, so is rushdown, but it's part of the game. That's like saying you shouldn't have burst in BB or any anime fighter because it stops the opponent's offense. If I played vanilla DS I would happily sit in the corner and shoot all game. "Spamming" doesn't exist in a fighter, sure a tactic may be dumb but it isn't spamming because the player keeps doing it because they want to win. You don't not use your knowledge of a strat because you want to play "fair", Heavy zoning and rushdown will exist in every fighter from now until they become irrelevant again. Also the NBA analogy doesn't pertain to anything in this argument. You are comparing apples and oranges.
first of all i didn't call anyone a scrub, i point out the scrub mentality MK only players that because something is different, its automatically bad. you don't feel in control of your character because you most likely did not develop the INJ way of movement, and probably didn't give it a chance to gain the high level knowledge you need to move in that game. some characters have shit movement, and its most likely because they have other tools to compensate, unless you're joker lol lbsh there are plenty of MK players that didn't give INJ a shot, and complain its because of this or that, when at a high level and understanding, most of those things aren't even a problem. i feel more in control with flash than any character in MK9, and it all comes down to personal preference, and if you don't have high level knowledge on both sides, how can you argue one is better than the other? (not saying you are, just some people in general)
is transformers an amazing movie because a lot of people watched it???
I get what you are saying, but NRS wants to make the games casual friendly as well as having enough depth for competitive players. That's why a lot of the moves in Injustice look really cool, but doesn't mean they are useful i.e supers. They don't want their game to be like Tekken where it has a really high learning curve. Even Harada said Tekken 7 is going to be easy to get into because the high curve stopped people from playing and buying TTT2
It should but it won't, remember most fighters cater to a casual audience because they make up most of their sales, and at the end of the day they want to make a profit. Hell like I told Pecka, even Harada is going to make Tekken 7 easier to get into because they are losing the casual audience due to the game's high learning curve.
To be fair whether they need it or not based on the trailer they do have some.
Or playable black woman.
No.
moves like that are fine. I am talking about extremely powerful moves. You wouldn't put a cooldown on those moves. It wouldn't make sense to put a cooldown on ds gunshots or sindels fireball. Now if deathstroke had an ability where he took out a sniper rifle or sindel had a fireball buff which eats other projectiles to gain damage those might need cooldowns and time limits. Essentially you would have more than 1 trait. Notice how i said excessively powerful See my point now? I am not sure if what you said was joking or not though :/ I just want my point to get across.
The point of my post would be to put in easy to use powerful moves. Casual players want to hit hard easily. The problem is they can't hit hard due to execution barriers. You could grant access to powerful tools and limit them so that they can be ALSO balanced for competitive play. The whole point of the post was that it could please both audiences and it would enhance depth. It's a win win win in my eyes and could be cheaply hotfixed with nrs' method of "variables which can be tweaked." Casual players don't like street fighters retarded execution nor the difficulty of doing combos on fighting games. Atleast you could give them a more in depth variety of tools to play around with thus giving them a more in depth "casual" experience along with giving the top 1% more to think about with also more to play with along with universal balancing mechanics.